What Is the Issue with Scalar Loop Corrections in Non-Abelian SU(N) Theories?

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The discussion focuses on computing the beta equation for a Non-Abelian SU(N) theory involving massless complex scalars, bosons, and ghosts, specifically addressing the boson self-energy scalar loop correction. The main issue arises from discrepancies in the calculated self-energy corrections, particularly a missing negative sign and a factor of two in the scalar loop diagram compared to the ghost loop. Participants seek clarification on the Feynman rules for the boson-scalar-scalar vertex and how these relate to the ghost loop's results. The confusion stems from the expectation that both loops should yield similar forms, given the massless scalars, but the scalar loop introduces additional complexities. The conversation emphasizes the need for accurate notation and understanding of the contributions from different diagrams in the context of quantum field theory.
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Hello all, I hope you can give me a hand with a QFT homework I'm working on. We are to compute the beta equation of a Non-abelian SU(N) theory with: Complex scalars (massless), bosons, ghosts. My question is referring to the Boson self-energy scalar loop correction.

1. Homework Statement

We have the boson self energy correction involving a scalar loop.
This loop is formed of 2 3-vertex of Boson-scalar-scalar:
scalar_loop.jpg


Homework Equations


The Feynman rules I derived for this diagrams are:
feynman_rules.jpg

Where solid lines are scalars and dashed lines are ghosts.

The Attempt at a Solution


This is what I get:
boson_selfe.jpg

(We are setting the scalars to be massless). I know the boson loop and the ghost loop are corrrect as I checked them on a book (I'm using Bailin & Love).
The reason of my confusion is, when I add them all I get, besides some factors:
zeta_boson.jpg

But on the lecture our teacher told us we should get:
image.png


I have a sign and a factor on 2 wrong, and It's coming from the scalar loop diagram.

As we can see from the feynman rules, the 3-vertex for boson-scalar is the same as the one for boson-ghost, except for a factor. Doesn't these mean that both self-energy corrections should give me the same answer, except for such factor? And, therefore, if I know the ghost loop is correct, then I also know the scalar loop should have the same form (given the scalars are massless, as mentioned previously). But then, I am missing the (-) sign and the factor of two.

Can you help me with this please? Can someone confirm the Feynman rule I got for boson-scalar-scalar is correct? If so, where might the problem be?

Thank you very much
Regards
 
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idmena said:
Hello all, I hope you can give me a hand with a QFT homework I'm working on. We are to compute the beta equation of a Non-abelian SU(N) theory with: Complex scalars (massless), bosons, ghosts. My question is referring to the Boson self-energy scalar loop correction.


Hi, I am trying to make sure I understand the question correctly. Where exactly do you think you are off by a factor of 2 and a minus sign? What do you get for your ##Z_3##? (I can see what I would get using your expression but I want to make sure we are on the same wavelength in terms of notation)
 
nrqed said:
Hi, I am trying to make sure I understand the question correctly. Where exactly do you think you are off by a factor of 2 and a minus sign? What do you get for your ##Z_3##? (I can see what I would get using your expression but I want to make sure we are on the same wavelength in terms of notation)

Adding the contributions from the diagrams shown, I get what is shown in the first line of the last pic:
boson_terms.png


The counter term in my lagrangean should look like:
(propagator) * (something)

So, at this point I would like to have something like:
hope.png


Alas, I cannot do this becuase there is a 1/6 S that does not let me factorize my result like this. That term comes from the scalar loop, that is why I think that is the prpblem.

By the way, I should've mentioned before that I am working in Feynman gauge, so I should only have the propagator counter-term, not a gauge fixing counter-term.
 

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