What is the joint probability of X and Y on a unit interval of (0,1)?

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The discussion revolves around determining the joint probability of two random variables, X and Y, defined as the minimum and maximum, respectively, of a set of independent and uniformly distributed random variables over the interval (0,1). Participants are tasked with exploring various cases for the joint probability P(X > x, Y < y) and the joint cumulative distribution function (CDF) of X and Y.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Some participants question whether the only relevant case for P(X > x, Y < y) is when 0 < x < y < 1, given the constraints of the interval. Others express uncertainty about the implications of independence between X and Y, leading to discussions about the validity of considering multiple cases.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, raising questions about the assumptions made regarding independence and the setup of the problem. Some have provided initial thoughts on the calculations involved, while others have expressed confusion and sought clarification on the relationships between X, Y, and the uniform distribution.

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There appears to be some confusion regarding the independence of X and Y, as well as the interpretation of the problem statement. Participants are navigating through various cases and constraints imposed by the definitions of X and Y within the unit interval.

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Homework Statement



Let U1...Un be independent and uniformly distributed over the unit interval (0,1). Let X be the minimum of U1...Un and Y be the maximum

a) Determine P(X > x, Y < y). Consider the following cases: 1) 0< x < y < 1 2) 0 < y 1, x < 0
3) 0 < x < 1, y > 1 4) x < 0, y > 1. 5) all remaining possibilites
b) Determine the joint CDF of X and Y
c) using b), determine a joint density funtion of X and Y

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The Attempt at a Solution



for a), is the only possible case that can occur is (1)? since it's on the interval (0,1) so X/Y cannot be smaller than 0, and cannot be bigger than 1? And Y also has to be greater than X, since X is the minimum and Y the maximum.

[tex]\int^1_0 \int^Y_0 dx dy[/tex]

it doesn't seem right. Any hints?
 
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Homework Statement



Let U1...Un be independent and uniformly distributed over the unit interval (0,1). Let X be the minimum of U1...Un and Y be the maximum

a) Determine P(X > x, Y < y). Consider the following cases: 1) 0< x < y < 1 2) 0 < y 1, x < 0
3) 0 < x < 1, y > 1 4) x < 0, y > 1. 5) all remaining possibilites
b) Determine the joint CDF of X and Y
c) using b), determine a joint density funtion of X and Y

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



for a), is the only possible case that can occur is (1)? since it's on the interval (0,1) so X/Y cannot be smaller than 0, and cannot be bigger than 1? And Y also has to be greater than X, since X is the minimum and Y the maximum.

[tex]\int^1_0 \int^Y_0 dx dy[/tex]

it doesn't seem right. Any hints?
There is something wrong with your problem. You say X and Y are independent. If so, then there is no reason to "Consider the following cases". The probability that X> x is 1- x. The probability that Y< y is y. The probability that X> x and Y<y is (1- x)y.

And, the CDF of the joint probability if just P(X>x and Y>y)= xy.
 
if U1,U2,...,Un are independent, then so are X & Y?
 
Oh, blast! I misread the problem. I thought you were saying X and Y were independent.
 
Any ideas?
 

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