What is the Kernel, Nullity, Range, and Rank of T given a specific matrix A?

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The discussion revolves around a linear transformation T from R^4 to R^3 defined by a specific matrix A. Participants are tasked with finding the kernel, nullity, range, and rank of T based on the provided matrix.

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  • The original poster attempts to find the kernel using Gaussian elimination and expresses their findings regarding the rank and range. Some participants question the clarity of the kernel representation and the implications of the rank-nullity theorem.

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Participants are actively engaging with the original poster's attempts, providing feedback and questioning the correctness of the kernel and the relationship between nullity and rank. There is no explicit consensus yet, as various interpretations and clarifications are being explored.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the representation of the kernel and the application of the rank-nullity theorem. The original poster's approach may lack clarity, leading to further questions about the definitions and calculations involved.

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Homework Statement


let T: R^4 --->R^3, where T(v)=A(v) and matrix A is defined by

A = [2 1 -1 1
1 2 0 5
4 -1 1 0
Find kernel of T, nullity of T, range of T and rank of T


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ok. ker(T) = Null(A)

[2 1 -1 1][v1]= [0]
[1 2 0 5] [v2]= [0]
[4 -1 1 0][v3] = [0]
[v4]

simplifying using gauss jordan:

1 0 0 1/6 [v1] [0]
0 1 0 29/12 [v2] = [0]
0 0 1 7/4 [v3] [0]
[v4]

v1 + 1/6V4 = 0
V2 + 29/12v4 = 0
v3 + 7/4v4 = 0 so [ -1/6v4]
[-29/12v4] V all real
[-7/4v4]
[v4]

range and rank i got 3

is this right?
 
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First, don't get upset if someone doesn't respond within four hours!

Second, it is easy to check for yourself if you have the kernel right: Take A of each of the vectors in the kernel and see if it is 0. Frankly, I don't know what by mean by
"[ -1/6v4]
[-29/12v4] V all real
[-7/4v4]
[v4]"
Do you mean that the kernel is the one dimensional subspace of R4 spanned by the single vector <-1/6, -12/12, -7/4, 1>?

Finally, no, the nullity and range cannot both be 3. By the "rank-nullity theorem", rank and nullity must add to the dimension of the domain space, in this case, 4.
If you are saying that the kernel is spanned by that single vector, then the kernel has dimension 1, so the nullity is 1, and the rank is 4-1= 3.
 
yes that's what i meant by writing that answer, so to check this, i take the matrix of that and see if it is zero?


HallsofIvy said:
First, don't get upset if someone doesn't respond within four hours!

Second, it is easy to check for yourself if you have the kernel right: Take A of each of the vectors in the kernel and see if it is 0. Frankly, I don't know what by mean by
"[ -1/6v4]
[-29/12v4] V all real
[-7/4v4]
[v4]"
Do you mean that the kernel is the one dimensional subspace of R4 spanned by the single vector <-1/6, -12/12, -7/4, 1>?

Finally, no, the nullity and range cannot both be 3. By the "rank-nullity theorem", rank and nullity must add to the dimension of the domain space, in this case, 4.
If you are saying that the kernel is spanned by that single vector, then the kernel has dimension 1, so the nullity is 1, and the rank is 4-1= 3.
 
Once again, "take this matrix and see if it is 0" makes no sense. Take what matrix and see if what "makes no sense"?
 

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