What is the length of tangent AB in a geometry problem?

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The discussion revolves around a geometry problem involving tangents to a circle with a specified radius. The original poster presents a scenario where the lengths of certain tangents are given, and they seek to determine the length of one of the tangents, AB, while noting the relationship between the tangents and the circle's center.

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  • Participants explore relationships between the lengths of the tangents and question the assumptions made regarding the geometry of the problem. There are attempts to derive equations based on the angles subtended at the center of the circle.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights and questioning the validity of certain assumptions. Some participants have proposed alternative approaches and calculations, leading to different potential answers. There is no explicit consensus on the correct length of AB, but various lines of reasoning are being explored.

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Participants note potential inconsistencies in the values derived from the problem setup, particularly regarding the physical feasibility of certain lengths. The problem constraints and relationships between the tangents are under scrutiny.

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Hi Friends,
I am getting problem in a geometry problem. Please help me to find the answer.
The problem is as follows:

AB, BC, CD, AD are the tangent of circle of radius 10 cm. and center O. If the length of BC = 38 cm and CD = 27 cm. Then find the length of AB. Here tangent AB and AD are perpendicular to each other.

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ATTEMPT :

Here AP=AQ

&

OP = OQ = 10 cm

∵ ∠ PAQ = 90°

∴ quadrilateral AQOP will be a square

∴ AQ = AP = 10 cm

Now, BQ = (x - 10)

Now, BQ = BR = (x-10)

So, CR = (11 + x) = CS

Now, SD = (16 - x) = DP
…….

But after this I am unable to complete this. The answer which the book is showing is,

x = 21 cm.

Please friends help me in finding out the answer. Thank you all in advance.
 
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Strange, x comes out to be 21 cm if CS=27 cm.
 
Pranav-Arora said:
Strange, x comes out to be 21 cm if CS=27 cm.

how?
 
Can you explain how you got from this line:
Now, BQ = BR = (x-10)


to this line:
So, CR = (11 + x) = CS
 
Pranav-Arora said:
Strange, x comes out to be 21 cm if CS=27 cm.

Yes, you could deduce that if CS=27cm, but it is not physically possible.
Thunderhadron, consider the angles BQ, DP and CR subtend at O. Call these α, β, γ. Can you see how to write γ in terms of α and β? What equations can you write for the tangents of these angles? (But I'm not sure this is the best way... Seems to lead to quartics.)
 
haruspex said:
Thunderhadron, consider the angles BQ, DP and CR subtend at O. Call these α, β, γ. Can you see how to write γ in terms of α and β? What equations can you write for the tangents of these angles? (But I'm not sure this is the best way... Seems to lead to quartics.)
Managed to get it down to a cubic, and found that the answer to the question as posed is about 23.4. It's easy to show that it must be more than 21. At 21, you'd have CR=CD, making SD zero.
 

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