What is the Likelihood of a Feeder Cord Breaking?

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The discussion revolves around the likelihood of a cord breaking when a bird feeder is pulled by a child. The problem involves understanding the effects of different types of pulls—slow continuous versus sudden downward—on the cord's integrity.

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  • Participants explore the impact of pulling methods on the cord's likelihood of snapping, with one suggesting that the forces are equivalent in both scenarios. Others propose examining simpler analogies, such as pulling a box on a slippery surface, to investigate the underlying principles.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing personal experiences and questioning the role of static friction in the context of pulling forces. There is no consensus yet, but various perspectives are being explored.

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Some participants note the absence of friction in their analogies, which may influence their reasoning about the forces involved. The original poster's question also implies a need to consider the material properties of the objects involved.

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Homework Statement


3. A bird feeder of large mass is hung from a tree limb.
A cord attached to the bottom of the feeder has
been left dangling free. Curiosity gets the best of a child, who
pulls on the dangling cord in an attempt to see what's in the
feeder. The dangling cord is cut from the same source as the cord
attached to the limb. ls the cord between the feeder and the limb
more likely to snap with a slow continuous pull or a sudden down-
ward pull? Give your reasoning.

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I think that likelihood for the cord to snap is the same, because the forces acting on the cord are the same in both ways.

What do you think?
 
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Consider a simpler situation first. Suppose a heavy box sits on a slippery surface and you pull the box across the surface with a string as shown. To avoid breaking the string, should you pull slowly or snap the string quickly? Why does it make a difference?
 

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My experience tells me that I would pull the string slowly, but I can't prove why. Maybe it has something to do with static frictional force?
 
kaspis245 said:
My experience tells me that I would pull the string slowly, but I can't prove why. Maybe it has something to do with static frictional force?
There is no friction. What if you considered the case where the box on the slippery surface is made of solid lead and the case where the box is made of styrofoam? In which case would it be harder to break the string? Why?
 

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