Normal-Tangential Coordinate for Ball Moving in Circle

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The problem involves a ball moving in a horizontal circular path while attached to a string that is being pulled through a hole at the center of the circle. Participants are discussing the normal and tangential coordinates in relation to the ball's motion and the effects of the string being pulled.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are exploring the definitions and implications of normal and tangential coordinates in the context of circular motion. Questions arise about the relationship between the tangential component of velocity and the polar coordinate system, as well as the behavior of the normal component as the string is pulled.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the concepts involved, with some participants suggesting that the path remains circular under certain conditions. Guidance has been offered regarding the direction of the normal and tangential components, but no consensus has been reached on the specifics of the coordinate definitions.

Contextual Notes

Participants are considering the implications of the string being pulled at a constant speed and how this affects the motion of the ball. There is uncertainty about the speed at which the string is pulled and its impact on the circular motion.

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The problem is:

The ball B is traveling on a horizontal circle table. It is attached to the string that leads through a hole in the center of the circle. At the very beginning, the ball B is traveling around a circular path counter-clockwise, then the cord is pulled down through the hole with a constant speed. Sketch both polar coordinate and normal-tangential coordinates.

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My issues lie with understanding what the normal and tangential coordinates would be in this case.

Would Uθ and Ut be the same in this case? Also for the Un would it just be parallel to the axis in the center and go through the ball? Or am I thinking about this wrong and is it just a simple 2D circular motion still.
 
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I don't know what the normal and tangential coordinates are. Maybe you mean the tangential and normal components of velocity or acceleration?

If the string is pulled down (so the portion that goes from the hole to the ball gets shorter) the ball will move towards the hole, so its velocity will have a normal component. What will happen to its tangential component? (here normal and tangential are to be understood as "to the trajectory")
 
Okay so if I'm drawing the normal and tangential coordinates with respect to the motion of the ball on the table, than the normal component Un should still point from the ball towards the center of the circle. My understanding for the tangential component Ut will be tangent to the path so can I therefore assume that the path is still a circle and therefore Ut will equal the polar coordinate Uθ?
 
Yes, I would say you can assume the path is still a circle, as long as the string doesn't get shorter very fast.
 
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