What is the limit of sin^3x/(sinx - x) as x approaches 0?

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The discussion revolves around finding the limit of the expression sin^3(x)/(sin(x) - x) as x approaches 0. This involves concepts from calculus, particularly limits and potentially the application of l'Hôpital's rule.

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  • Participants explore various methods to evaluate the limit, including attempts to use l'Hôpital's rule and algebraic manipulation. Some express frustration with reaching indeterminate forms, while others suggest alternative approaches and identities.

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The conversation reflects a mix of attempts to clarify the problem and explore different methods. While some participants have found specific values or approaches, there is no consensus on a single method or resolution. The discussion remains open with various interpretations being explored.

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One participant notes that this limit is not part of a homework assignment but is being explored for personal interest. There is mention of confusion regarding the application of certain identities and the effectiveness of different limit evaluation techniques.

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[tex]\lim_{x\rightarrow 0} \frac{\sin^3x}{\sin x - x}[/tex]

I've been trying to find this limit the hard way without l'Hôpital's rule, but no luck. I've tried different things like factoring the difference of cubes to get rid of the denominator, but I can't get out of an indeterminate form. I did get sin3x/(sinx + x) but that didn't help. that x by itself seems to be causing the problem. This one's got me a little frustrated but I must be missing something relatively simple...
 
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Even though you said you tried it without l'Hôpital's rule, did you actually try it?

You can keep using l'Hôpital's rule if you keep getting zero over zero or infinity over infinity.

Just a clue. Use l'Hôpital's rule twice, and see if you can simplify the fraction using the identity sin(x)^2 + cos(x)^2 = 1
 
I did use l'Hôpital's rule just so I could find the actual limit, which was -6. I used the identity sin2x + cos2x = 1 but that still didn't help.
 
Kinda confused.

Then what are you trying to do?
 
vwishndaetr said:
Kinda confused.

Then what are you trying to do?

Say I want to find limx→0tanx/x. I could find it this way
[tex]\lim_{x\rightarrow 0}\frac{\tan x}{x} = \lim_{x\rightarrow 0}\frac{\frac{\sin x}{\cos x}}{x} = \lim_{x\rightarrow 0} \frac{\sin x}{x}\times \frac{1}{\cos x} = 1\times \frac{1}{\cos 0} = 1[/tex]

without using l'Hôpital's rule and using important limits like I used limx→0sinx/x = 1 above. I want to find the limit in the OP the "long way."
 
I'm doing this limit just for fun; not a homework problem. In fact, I don't remember where I found this limit problem.

[tex]\frac{x^3}{\sin x - x}\times\frac{\sin^2x + x\sin x + x^2}{\sin^2x + x\sin x + x^2} = \frac{x^3 - \sin^3x + \sin^3x}{\sin^3x - x^3}(\sin^2x + x\sin x + x^2)[/tex]

[tex]= \frac{\sin^3x -(\sin^3x - x^3)}{\sin^3x - x^3}(\sin^2x + x\sin x + x^2) = \left(\frac{\sin^3x}{\sin^3x - x^3} - 1\right)(\sin^2x + x\sin x + x^2)[/tex]
Then I realized the right factor will make the whole expression 0... But I went a slightly different way that looked promising:

[tex]\frac{x^3}{\sin x - x} = \frac{x^3 - \sin^3x + \sin^3x}{\sin x - x} = \frac{-(\sin x - x)(x^2 + x\sin x + sin^2x)}{\sin x - x} ~+~ \frac{\sin^3x}{\sin x - x}[/tex]

But I couldn't do anything with that last term.

Everything else I've tried was a dead end, or actually brought me back to what I started with and they're not really worth posting.
 

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