What is the mangitude field inside the inner solenoid?

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The problem involves calculating the magnetic field inside an inner solenoid that is situated within an outer solenoid. The inner solenoid has 2500 turns and the outer solenoid has 4000 turns, both with a length of 20 cm and carrying a current of 2.5 A in the same direction.

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  • Participants discuss the formula for the magnetic field in a solenoid and the implications of having one solenoid inside another. There are attempts to calculate the magnetic field using turn density and current, with some questioning the correctness of their calculations and the impact of the solenoids' arrangement.

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Some participants have provided calculations for the magnetic field but express uncertainty about their results. There is a mix of attempts to clarify the equations used and the potential confusion regarding unit conversions. Guidance has been offered regarding the need to consider both solenoids in the calculation.

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Participants note issues with unit conversions, specifically mixing centimeters with meters, and the need for clarity on the equations being used. There is also a mention of the permeability constant relevant to the calculations.

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1. Homework Statement


A 20cm long solenoid has 4000 turns of wire. Insiude this solenoid is a second on, also 20cmlong but with 2500 turns of wire. If a 2.5 A current flows in each solenoid in the same directon, what is the magnetic field inside the inner solenoid?

2. Homework Equations

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3. The Attempt at a Solution

magnetic field = permeability x turn density x current

For a solenoid of length L 20cm with N = 2500 turns , the turn density is n= N/L = 125 turns/ m.
I=2.5 ampres.

B =0.07853981633974483 Tesla

Is this correct?

Does the Does the fact that it is one inside the other affect my calculations?
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the field inside the inner coil is simply the sum of the field due to the inner coil plus the field due to the outer coil
 
So I have:
magnetic field = permeability x turn density x current

For a solenoid of length L 20cm with N = 2500 turns , the turn density is n= N/L = 125 turns/ m.
I=2.5 ampres.

B =0.07853981633974483 Tesla

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magnetic field = permeability x turn density x current

For a solenoid of length L 20cm with N = 4000 turns , the turn density is n= N/L = 200 turns/ m.
I=2.5 ampres.

B = Tesla

argh! what am i not getting?
 
mixing cm with m
 
.20 should be used not 20.

What about my second equation, can you help me substitute in?
 
Can anyone help me with this question?
 
B=uIN/l

N=turns of wire
l= length if solenoid
u= 4(pi)(10^-7Tm/A)
 

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