What is the mass of the ball and the tension in the string?

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a ball held steady by a horizontal force and a tension in a string. The problem includes analyzing forces in a free body diagram, with specific values for the horizontal force and an angle related to the tension in the string.

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  • Participants discuss the need to analyze forces in both x and y components, questioning how to set up the equations for equilibrium. Some express uncertainty about how to approach the tension calculation and the relationship between the forces acting on the ball.

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There is a productive exploration of the problem, with some participants suggesting methods for breaking down the forces and emphasizing the concept of equilibrium. However, there is no explicit consensus on the approach, and various interpretations of the problem are being considered.

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Participants note the importance of the ball being in equilibrium, with no net force acting on it, which is central to the discussion of how to balance the forces involved. There is also mention of the need for a clear coordinate system to analyze the components effectively.

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Homework Statement



In the diagram below, the horizontal force, F, holds the ball steady. Given F = 7.0 N, and [tex]\theta[/tex] = 18 deg, calculate the mass of the ball.

I can't get the link to the picture to work, but it looks like a basic free body diagram with a ball. The ball is m, with an arrow, F, protruding from the right of this ball. At about 130-140 deg from the positive x-axis an arrow for, T, points towards a direction that you could imagine as northwest. The string is also hung from this angle, so a thin line that indicates the string and the arrow, T fall right on each other. If you imagine upper section of the string, angle theta which is 18 deg is indicated which is drawn to the left of the string.

What is the tension in the string.

Homework Equations



[tex]\sum F[/tex] = ma

I think you do components, not 100% sure.

The Attempt at a Solution



I drew a free body diagram with a coordinate system where T lies directly along the -x-axis. Using Fx = 7.0cos18deg, and Fy = 7.0sin18deg, they were 6.66 N and 2.16 N respectively. But from here, I'm not really sure what to do. In my diagram I also added W = mg.

I also didn't know how to approach the tension problem. Would you need to subtract components?

Thank you
 
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It might be a bit easier if you stick to a coordinate system using y as the vertical and x as the horizontal.

Hint: The sum of the forces acting on the ball along any direction must be what? Analyze x and y components separately, then combine the equations.
 
Because the ball is steady with no force giving it an increase in acceleration should all the forces cancel each other out for equilibrium?
 
09jml90 said:
Because the ball is steady with no force giving it an increase in acceleration should all the forces cancel each other out for equilibrium?
Yes: The ball is in equilibrium, the acceleration is zero, so the net force on the ball must be zero.
 
this is basically a statics problem - everything equals zero

Sum the forces in the X, than sum the forces in the Y. You should be able to calculate the mass of the ball using mg found in the Y component of the force.
 
Ok. Breaking the forces down into components and using the given angle. The x component of tension must equal -7.0 N, and using this I could solve the y component (21.54 N) and ultimately solve the hypotenuse which was the tension. The tension turned out to be 22.65 N. Because it is in equilibrium, all the forces must balance, so because y+ is 21.54 N, in order for everything to balance, the magnitude of the weight must be 21.54 N. With the known value of g, I can solve for mass.

Mass of ball = 2.20 kg
Tension = 22.65 N
 
Thank you for your help everybody.
 

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