What Is the Mass of the Late Arrival in the Hot-Air Balloon?

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The problem involves a hot-air balloon that is neutrally buoyant with a known combined weight of 1220 kg before a late arrival climbs aboard. Once this person enters the basket, the balloon accelerates downward at 0.59 m/s², prompting a question about the mass of the late arrival.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need to compare forces before and after the late arrival to determine the mass of the last person. There are attempts to formulate equations based on the forces acting on the balloon, including weight and upthrust.

Discussion Status

Several participants are exploring the relationships between the forces involved and are attempting to set up equations to find the unknown mass. There is an ongoing dialogue about the correct interpretation of the forces acting on the balloon before and after the late arrival climbs aboard.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the assumption that the balloon was neutrally buoyant before the late arrival, and there is a focus on the implications of this condition for the forces involved.

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Homework Statement


For a birthday gift, you and some friends take a hot-air balloon ride. One friend is late, so the balloon floats a couple of feet off the ground as you wait. Before this person arrives, the combined weight of the basket and people is 1220 kg , and the balloon is neutrally buoyant. When the late arrival climbs up into the basket, the balloon begins to accelerate downward at 0.59m/s2 .What was the mass of the last person to climb aboard?


Homework Equations


F=ma



The Attempt at a Solution


do I need to find the net force before and after the last person's arrival?then compare those 2 equations to get the last person's mass? could somebody give me a clue how to approach this kind of a problem?

Thanks in advance.
 
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On the air balloon there are two forces, weight (downwards) and upthrust (upwards) .

So yes, you need to compare before (which will give you the upthrust) and then after to get the person's mass.
 
so would the 1st equation be??
upthrust (F_u) - Wt of the basket & people (W) = mass (m). acceleration (a)
F_u - 1220 * 9.81 = 1220 * 0.59
Therefore F_u = 12919.8 N

would the 2nd equation be??
F_u - (1220+mass of last person)g = (1220+mass of last person)a

am I in right way ...? if not could you please help me?

Thanks again...
 
pttest said:
so would the 1st equation be??
upthrust (F_u) - Wt of the basket & people (W) = mass (m). acceleration (a)
F_u - 1220 * 9.81 = 1220 * 0.59
Therefore F_u = 12919.8 N

I think F_U -W =0 since before the other person jumps into the basket it is just hovering. The second equation is correct.
 
The first equation is Fu-Wt=0 ,because at the beginning the acceleration is zero, because "the balloon is neutrally buoyant" at the beginning.
 
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