What Is the Mass of the Second Ice Skater?

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The problem involves two ice skaters who push off each other, with one skater's mass and speed given, and the other skater's speed provided. The objective is to determine the mass of the second skater using principles of physics.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the application of momentum conservation, questioning the initial use of energy conservation formulas. There is an exploration of the correct momentum formula and its application to the problem.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on the correct approach to use conservation of momentum, while others have clarified misconceptions regarding energy conservation. The discussion is ongoing with multiple interpretations being explored.

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There is a noted confusion regarding the formulas used, particularly between momentum and energy conservation, which may affect the understanding of the problem setup.

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Homework Statement



Two ice skaters stand at rest in the center of an ice rink. When they push off one another, the 60 kg skater acquires a speed of .61 m/s. If the speed of the other skater is .8m/s what is this skater's mass?

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explosion- pi=pf

The Attempt at a Solution



1/2m1v1^2=m2v2^2
1/2(60)(.61^2)=m2(.8^2)
11.16=m2(.64)
m2=17.43 but it said this was wrong

but then i got a really big number which doesn't seem right
 
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Recheck your formulas. What's the formula for the momentum of a moving body?
 
p=mv?
 
eagles12 said:
p=mv?
Is that a guess?
 
so do i do m1v1=m2v2 instead of squaring the velocities
 
got it! thanks
 
yes, that's right man. Its simply conservation of momentum.
 
There is NO "conservation of energy" (which is what you were trying to use first) because the "explosion" (push) adds energy to the system.
 

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