What is the Meaning of Cylindrical Vectors in Relation to Cartesian Vectors?

  • Thread starter Thread starter salman213
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Cylindrical Vector
Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around understanding cylindrical vectors in relation to Cartesian vectors, particularly how to interpret and visualize these vectors within the cylindrical coordinate system.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the meaning of cylindrical vectors, questioning how to visualize them compared to Cartesian vectors. There is confusion regarding the representation of vectors in cylindrical coordinates, particularly in terms of their components and how they relate to points in space.

Discussion Status

Some participants are attempting to clarify the relationship between cylindrical and Cartesian coordinates, while others express confusion about how to draw or specify vectors in cylindrical coordinates. Guidance has been offered regarding the geometric interpretation of cylindrical coordinates, but a consensus on the representation of vectors remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants are grappling with the transition from Cartesian to cylindrical coordinates, particularly in terms of visualizing vectors and understanding their components. There is a noted emphasis on the differences in representation and the dynamic nature of cylindrical coordinates compared to the fixed nature of Cartesian coordinates.

salman213
Messages
301
Reaction score
1
1. IM very confused about the meaning of these cylindrical vectors

for Cartesian vectors if i say A = 1ax + 2ay + 3az

I know i mean a vector with a magntiude of 1 in the x direction 2 in the y direction and 3 in the z direction and i make a line from the origin to point (1,2,3).

Now for cylindrical I cannot think the same way

for a point i can make a point easily it seems to have a similar meaning (r is the magntiude from origin to the point, phi being the angle from x and z being the regular z)


now for a vector example a = 1 ap + 2 aphi + 3 az


Im very confused how do i draw this vector and what does it mean?



the magntiude along p is 1 so the angle is 2? from the x axis?

i don't think this is correct.. I can't understand this help!


 
Physics news on Phys.org
Cylindrical coordinates can be thought of as a right triangle with a point of rotation at the origin. The one leg of the triangle lies in the x-y plane and is

[tex]\rho[/tex]

and the vertical leg is

[tex]\mbox{z}[/tex]

and the angle with respect to an axis, usually the x axis, that the triangle is rotated from is

[tex]\phi[/tex]

These three values form another orthogonal coordinate system but it is not fixed like a Cartesian coordinate system but changes direction as the point changes position.
 
Last edited:
so you would not be able to draw the vector out?

how would i draw or specifiy a change in aphi like on a 3d plane what would the difference of

1 ap + 2aphi + 3az and 1 ap + 3aphi + 3az ?
 
the thing is this all seems to be about points i don't understand how to relate it to vectors in cylindrical system

I was wondering if someone can give me an idea of how to represent a vector in cylindrical coordinate system.

like on a 3d plane what would the difference of

1 ap + 2aphi + 3az and 1 ap + 3aphi + 3az ?
 
I think what you are looking for is a relation between the Cartesian vectors and the Cylindrical vectors. So, using the picture from the link given previously and some trigonometry, we have

[tex]\vec{x}=\rho\mbox{cos\phi}\hat{x}[/tex]

[tex]\vec{y}=\rho\mbox{sin\phi}\hat{y}[/tex]

[tex]\vec{z}=z\hat{z}[/tex]

where

[tex]\hat{x},\hat{y}, and \ \hat{z}[/tex]

are unit vectors in the x, y, and z directions. The inverse relations are

[tex]\vec{\rho}=\sqrt{x^2+y^2}\hat{\rho}[/tex]

[tex]\vec{\phi}=\arctan{\frac{y}{x}}\hat{\phi}[/tex]

The z value is the same for both coordinate systems. Hope this helps.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 17 ·
Replies
17
Views
3K
Replies
8
Views
1K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
3K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
5K
Replies
5
Views
2K
Replies
5
Views
2K
  • · Replies 11 ·
Replies
11
Views
2K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
2K
  • · Replies 14 ·
Replies
14
Views
3K
Replies
14
Views
2K