What is the meaning of partial differentiation in physics?

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The discussion revolves around the meaning and application of partial differentiation in the context of physics, particularly focusing on the formula \(\frac{\partial V}{\partial t}\), where \(V\) represents velocity and \(t\) represents time. Participants explore both the mathematical aspects of partial differentiation and its physical interpretations.

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  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a mathematical example of partial differentiation, calculating \(\frac{\partial z}{\partial x}\) and \(\frac{\partial z}{\partial y}\) for a function \(z = f(x,y)\).
  • Another participant confirms the correctness of the calculations and emphasizes the importance of considering variable independence when performing partial differentiation.
  • It is noted that the rate of change of velocity with respect to time is typically referred to as acceleration, but this is contextual and can vary based on the treatment of \(V\) as a vector or scalar.
  • A different perspective is introduced, suggesting that \(V\) may represent a "velocity field" rather than the velocity of a single particle, leading to a distinction between local rate of change of velocity and particle acceleration.
  • Further clarification is provided that the partial differentiation of \(V\) with respect to time reflects the locally measured rate of change of velocity for different particles at a fixed position over time.
  • It is mentioned that to find particle acceleration, one must consider both the local rate of change of velocity and the convective acceleration term.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the interpretation of the formula \(\frac{\partial V}{\partial t}\), with some emphasizing its relation to acceleration and others focusing on its application to velocity fields. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of these interpretations.

Contextual Notes

There are assumptions regarding the independence of variables and the context in which \(V\) is defined that are not fully explored. The discussion also touches on the distinction between local and particle acceleration without resolving the implications of these differences.

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Hi everyone,

I know that if

[tex]z = f(x,y) = x^2y + xy^2[/tex]

then

[tex]\frac{\partial z}{\partial x}=2xy+y^2[/tex] and
[tex]\frac{\partial z}{\partial y}=x^2+2xy[/tex]

Please correct me if I am wrong.

In the physics, can anyone please tell me what is the meaning of below formula?

[tex]\frac{\partial V}{\partial t}[/tex]

Where V is the velocity and t is the time elapsed.
 
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Hey optics.tech.

Both calculations are correct, and if you were thinking about keeping the other variable constant will differentiating the other variable, then your thinking is correct. The case when you can not do this is when the two variables are not independent. If they are dependent, then you can write y in terms of x (or the other way around) and you end up getting an equation in terms of 1 independent variable instead of 2. Just thought you should keep this in mind for future problems.

The rate of change of velocity with respect to time is typically known as acceleration. V can be a vector or it can be a scalar depending on the context (usually treating it as a vector is what happens unless you are learning for the first time).

It tells us how velocity changes over time instantaneously: in other words how it either increases or decreases instanteously at every particular point in time that it is defined for.
 
V=f(r,θ)
 
"V" is in this case typically the "velocity field", rather than the (particle) velocity.

Thus, the partial differentiation of V with respect to time does NOT equal the acceleration of the particular material particle inhabiting some fixed position at the point of time.

Rather, the partial diff of V wrt time is the locally measured rate of change of velocity for different particles inhabiting the same fixed position at different times.
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Thus, if you put a velocimeter at a fixed point in a moving stream, the rate of change of the velocity read from that apparatus equals the partial diff of V wrt. to time.
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The particle acceleration can be found from the velocity field by adding together a) this local rate of change of velocity and b) the convective acceleration term.
 

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