What is the method for calculating the dampening of thermal oscillations?

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The discussion centers on solving the one-dimensional heat equation using separation of variables, specifically in the context of modeling thermal oscillations in the ground with periodic boundary conditions. Participants explore the mathematical formulation and implications of the solution, including the damping of thermal oscillations.

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  • Mathematical reasoning
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the one-dimensional heat equation and describes their approach using separation of variables, outlining the general solution and boundary conditions.
  • Another participant suggests an alternative form for the solution involving complex exponentials, indicating a different approach to the problem.
  • A participant corrects the terminology from "dampening" to "damping," emphasizing the importance of precise language in mathematical discussions.
  • Further insights are shared regarding the limitations of the separation of variables method in this context, particularly concerning the dimensional consistency of terms in the proposed solution.
  • One participant expresses curiosity about the literature on heat functions and the lagging behavior of heat in relation to surface waves, seeking additional resources for understanding.
  • A link to a resource from MIT OpenCourseWare is provided, which may contain relevant information on the heat equation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the applicability of the separation of variables method and the formulation of the solution, indicating that there is no consensus on the best approach or understanding of the damping behavior of thermal oscillations.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions regarding the derivation of the exponential decay term for thermal oscillations and the specific conditions under which the proposed solutions are valid. The discussion highlights the need for careful consideration of boundary conditions and dimensional analysis.

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Hello,

I am attempting to solve the 1 d heat equation using separation of variables.

1d heat equation:

##\frac{\partial T}{\partial t} = \alpha \frac{\partial^2 T}{\partial x^2}##

I used the standard separation of variables to get a solution. Without including boundary conditions right now, the solutions are:

##T(x,t) = f(x) \times g(t)##

where

##f(x) = A_1(sin(\sqrt{\lambda} x) + cos(\sqrt{\lambda} x))## and
##g(t) = A_1 e^{-\lambda \alpha t}##

other terms:
##\alpha =## thermal conductivity
##\lambda =## some constant (solved for in boundary conditions)
##A_1 =## some constant

I've worked through and have a decent grasp on many of the fixed boundary conditions solutions for this problem. I'm trying to model ground temperature with increasing depth, so I know need to have a periodic boundary condition at the surface to represent seasons and then constant temperature deep underground.

Boundary conditions:

##T(0,t) = T_0 + Asin(\frac{2 \pi t}{365} )## (ground surface)

##T(\infty, t) = T_0 ##

##\lim_{x \to \infty} \frac{d T}{d x} = 0 ##

This paper gave the magnitude of thermal oscillations as decreasing in proportion to ##e^\frac{-x}{d_p}## where ##d_p = \sqrt{\alpha t_p/\pi}## is the period depth, t_p is the period time (365 days). I'm not sure how he got that decaying exponential, some kind of coefficient, but I haven't dealt with periodic boundary conditions before and it looks like he didn't use numerical methods to get this one?

Any idea how he was able to calculate the dampening of oscillations??
 
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Try T = T0 + Aei(ωt-βx)e-αx
 
Oh, and it's "damping". "Dampening" means making moist.
 
I've been playing with that solution for the past couple of days, a couple insights:
  • The method of separation of variables as described here won't work. The solution you provided has an x component in the imaginary exponential term as well as a time component, so it's not two independent functions multiplied.
  • The general form looks good although I know it can't be a diffusivity term on the last part, the units need to work out to be dimensionless. I guess according to Eskilson it's ##\frac{1}{\sqrt{2 \alpha / \omega}}##, just not sure how he got that.
I see now how it's required to get that beta term in the sinusoidal function, it accounts for the fact that heat lags behind the wave on the surface. Do you know of any literature I can look into regarding heat functions like this?

Also thank you for the grammatical correction. =)
 
@Nidum looks like that'll be a lot of fun :ok:. Thanks, appreciate it.
 

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