What Is the Minimum Diameter for a 600kV DC Transmission Line with 2% Loss?

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The problem involves designing a DC electrical transmission line to deliver 300MW of power over a distance of 200km with a specified maximum loss of 2%. The voltage for the line is set at 600kV, and the goal is to determine the minimum diameter of the aluminum wire required for this setup.

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  • Participants discuss the application of power equations and resistive losses in the context of the transmission line design. There is confusion regarding the correct interpretation of the 2% loss and how it affects the calculations. Some participants question the original poster's approach to calculating resistance and power loss, suggesting a need to clarify the distinction between total power and power lost to resistance.

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Participants are actively engaging with the original poster's calculations, offering corrections and suggestions for re-evaluating the approach. There is a recognition of the need to differentiate between total power and power lost, indicating a productive exploration of the problem's nuances.

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Some participants note discrepancies in the resistivity values used and the interpretation of the power loss percentage, which may affect the calculations. The original poster's reference to external sources is also mentioned, highlighting the complexity of the problem.

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Homework Statement



You have been asked to develop a cross-country DC electrical transmission line to deliver 300MW of power to a town 200km away. This design is to only have a 2% loss (98% efficiency). If the line voltage is 600kV, what is the minimum diameter that the aluminum wire can be?

Homework Equations



R = p * l / A
P = I * V
P = (I ^ 2) * R
P = (V ^ 2) / R

The Attempt at a Solution



This problem seems simple enough to me, yet I heard the answer I got was wrong.

P = (V^2)/R
---R = p * l / A
------A = pi * d^2 / 4
---R = 4 * p * l / (pi * d^2)
P = (V^2) / (4 * p * l / (pi * d^2))
P = pi * d^2 * V^2 / (4 * p * l)
d = sq(4 * p * l * P / (pi * V^2))
---P = 2% of total power = .02 * 300e6 Watts
d = sq(4 * 2.7e-8 * 200e3 * .02 * 300e6 / (pi * (600e3)^2)
d = 3.460e-4 m = 0.000346 meters

However something is wrong, because that's not the right answer (and that would be a REALLY small wire!).
From what I understand power in the P=V^2*R equation is equal to the power dissipated, or the power lost. Is that correct?

I found someones attempt online, though some parts seem off to me, and I don't understand why they did the two things they noted. Also, we used different resistivities, but that is not a big deal.

(http://physics.hivepc.com/eminduct.html)

p of aluminum is 2.65x10^-8

I = P/V.
I = 300x10^6W/600x10^3V = 500A.

P_Loss = I^2R.
(300x10^6*.02*1.02 ) = 500^2*R (PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO .02*1.02*P_input)
24.48 = R
R = pL/A, 24.48= 2.65x10^-8 * 2*200x10^3/pi*r^2
*NOTE* in a dc line there is a to and fro, so two times the distance.
2r = d.
d = 2.348cm

It also appeared on chegg, but I can't view it without the subscription... (http://www.chegg.com/homework-help/questions-and-answers/design-a-dc-transmission-line-that-can-transmit-300-mw-ofelectricity-200-km-with-only-a-2--q75618)
 
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You've applied the 2% in the wrong way (backwards) leading to 1/50th of the correct answer.
 
Thanks for the response. How are you saying I should change the values in my equation? Should power be equal to .98 * 300MW?
 
It's a bit hard to follow your working because you don't discriminate clearly between the total power the line is carrying and the power lost to resistance. P = (V^2)/R is valid if R is the total resistive load across which the voltage drop V occurs. So if R includes the useful load on the circuit, not just the losses, then P is the 300MW, but if R is the resistance of the wire then you need to break this into two stages:
Total power = Voltage * Current
Lost power = Current2 * Resistance
The net effect of your confusion was to multiply by the 2% instead of dividing by it (or v.v.).
 

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