What is the Modulus of the Square Root of a Number?

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The discussion revolves around the mathematical interpretation of the square root function, particularly in relation to the modulus of a number. Participants are examining the expression (x^2)^0.5 and its equivalence to |x|, as well as the implications of taking square roots of negative numbers.

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  • Some participants explore the definition of the square root function and its implications for positive and negative inputs. Others question the necessity of the modulus in the context of square roots, particularly when considering negative values.

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There is an active exploration of the definitions and properties of square roots, with participants providing differing viewpoints on whether the square root of a squared number should be considered as the modulus. Some participants emphasize the importance of defining square roots for real versus complex numbers, while others challenge the assumptions made about the outputs of these functions.

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Participants are primarily focused on real numbers, with some references to complex numbers. There is an ongoing debate about the definitions and the implications of taking square roots of negative numbers, which remains unresolved.

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Consider this function:
(x^2)^0.5

My textbook considers this to be |x| (modulus of x).
Is it correct?

x^2 gives a positive quantity.On taking square root of that,we'll get either -x or +x.
So why modulus?

Also,
(x^0.5)^2
This is modulus isn't it?

Thank You
 
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For (x2)0.5 consider that if you plug in a value of x=-1, squaring that gives 1 and then taking the square root (since we define the square root of a number to be its positive square root) this will be 1, which is |-1|. So if we plug in any positive number for x, we get back the positive but if we plug in a negative, we get back the negative of that, or its modulus. So the answer is (x2)0.5=|x|

For the other, yes the answer is just x, but remember that you can't take the square root of a negative number so it's only defined for [itex]x\geq 0[/itex]
 
sachin123 said:
Consider this function:
(x^2)^0.5

My textbook considers this to be |x| (modulus of x).
Is it correct?

x^2 gives a positive quantity.On taking square root of that,we'll get either -x or +x.
This is wrong. Every operation (or function) on one or more numbers gives a single value. [itex]\sqrt{a}[/itex] is defined as the positive number whose square is a. Think about it: What are the solutions to [itex]x^2= a[/itex]? answer: [itex]x= \pm\sqrt{a}[/itex]. If [itex]\sqrt{a}[/itex] itself were both plus and minus, you would NOT need to write the "[itex]\pm[/itex]".

So why modulus?

Also,
(x^0.5)^2
This is modulus isn't it?

Thank You
No, it is not. If x is already negative then either its square is not defined (it you are talking about real numbers only) and so you cannot do that calculation, or it is an imaginary number whose square is negative.
 
sachin123 said:
So why modulus?
Also,
(x^0.5)^2
This is modulus isn't it?
HallsofIvy said:
No, it is not. If x is already negative then either its square is not defined (it you are talking about real numbers only) and so you cannot do that calculation, or it is an imaginary number whose square is negative.

I'm sure you meant "... then either its square root is not defined ..."
 
If, as I said, we are talking about real numbers only, and x= -4, then [itex](-4)^{1/2}[/itex] "is not defined"- there is no such real number and we simply cannot do that calculation.

If we are talking about complex numbers, then [itex](-4)^{1/2}= 2i[/itex] and then [itex]((-4)^{1/2})^2= (2i)^2= -4[/itex].
 

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