What Is the Most Direct Proof of Reality?

Thread starter Loren Booda
Start date Apr 5, 2003
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The discussion centers on the concept of "reality," with participants offering various definitions and perspectives. Reality is primarily described as a state of existence shaped by perception, with some arguing that it is defined by sensory input and experiences. The possibility of proving reality is debated, with many concluding that absolute proof is unattainable, as reality is often subjective and influenced by individual perception. Participants share personal experiences as direct proofs of reality, such as physical sensations or interactions with others, while contrasting these with the concept of "God-proof." The latter is seen as more abstract and less verifiable, often tied to personal beliefs rather than empirical evidence. The conversation also touches on philosophical ideas, such as solipsism and the paradox of existence, emphasizing the complexity of defining reality and the limitations of human understanding. Overall, the dialogue reflects a blend of philosophical inquiry and personal reflection on the nature of existence and perception.

Apr 30, 2003

Alexander

Originally posted by Loren Booda
1. Briefly define "reality."

2. Is a "proof" of reality possible?

3. Relate your most direct proof of reality.

4. Does, or how does, that differ from a God-proof?

1. Bunch of objectively observed facts (objectively = using independent from senses observers - like meter sticks, thermometers, stopwatchs, voltmeters, spectrometers, balances, etc).

2. Yes. Observe more and more facts.

3. See # 2.

4. Define God and use # 2 (observe facts). This immediately results in no Gods. (Unless you define God in non-orthodox manner: say, as "non-observable, never interacting with universe entity". But if you define God(s) this way, it then contradicts with all religions - thus such definition is NOT definition of God).