What is the name of this geometry theorem?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a geometry theorem related to the conditions under which a given angle and two sides can form 0, 1, or 2 triangles. Participants explore the implications of these conditions and seek to identify the theorem's name.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes a scenario where the length of a "hanging" side (x) in relation to 10sin(30) determines the number of triangles that can be formed: 1 triangle if x = 10sin(30), 2 triangles if x > 10sin(30), and no triangles if x < 10sin(30).
  • Another participant requests clarification and a diagram for the "2 triangles" case to better understand the situation.
  • A different participant discusses the triangle inequality theorem, stating that the sum of any two sides must be greater than the third side, and relates this to the conditions for forming triangles with the given angle and sides.
  • One participant introduces the Law of Cosines and presents a quadratic equation related to the problem, questioning whether this feature has a specific name.
  • A later reply suggests that the situation described is known as the Law of Sines and refers to it as the "ambiguous case" due to the possibility of forming 0, 1, or 2 triangles.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether there is a specific theorem name associated with the conditions discussed. Some suggest it may be the Law of Sines, while others remain uncertain.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the definitions and conditions under which the triangle formation is analyzed, particularly in relation to the ambiguous case and the application of the Law of Sines and Law of Cosines.

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In geometry, there is a theorem pertaining to whether given an angle, side, and side gives 0, 1, or 2 triangles. See figure. In the figure, if x = 10sin(30) then there is exactly 1 triangle, if x > 10sin(30) then 2 triangles if x < 10sin(30) then no triangles. I think this has a theorem name or something that I can look up in a tggext book.

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I am not sure I get you. Your drawing is no triangle case, right ? Could you draw "2 triangles" case to confirm I get you properly.
 
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The condition for three sides, A, B, and C to make a triangle is that the sum of any two sides must be greater than the third side. Given an angle and two sides the question is will these form a triangle. There are three conditions depending on how long the "hanging" side is. In my diagram, the hanging side is x the other side is 10, and the angle is 30 deg. If x = 10sin(30) then there will be one right triangle. If x < 10sin(30) then there is no triangle, and if x > 10sin(30) then there will be two triangles. I guess there is not a theorem here, just a problem.
 
Thanks for explanation. Law of cosine
c^2=a^2+b^2-2ab \cos \gamma
Regarding this as quadratic equation of b
b^2-2a \cos \gamma \ b + a^2-c^2 = 0
D/4= (a \cos \gamma)^2 - a^2 + c^2 = ( c- a \sin \gamma )( c + a \sin \gamma)
##a \sin \gamma < c## : b has two real solutions with ##\alpha_1<\frac{\pi}{2}<\alpha_2##
##a \sin \gamma = c## : b has one real solution with ##\alpha=\frac{\pi}{2}##
##a \sin \gamma > c## : b has no real solution

I do not know whether this feature has a specific name or not.
 
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barryj said:
In geometry, there is a theorem pertaining to whether given an angle, side, and side gives 0, 1, or 2 triangles. See figure. In the figure, if x = 10sin(30) then there is exactly 1 triangle, if x > 10sin(30) then 2 triangles if x < 10sin(30) then no triangles. I think this has a theorem name or something that I can look up in a tggext book.
I think it is called the law of Sines, since you are given SSA conditions on the triangle. This case is called the ambiguous case because there could be 0,1, 2 triangles.

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