What is the necessary force to support a 500 lb weight with a hydraulic lift?

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The discussion revolves around a hydraulic lift problem involving two pistons with different diameters and the necessary force to support a 500 lb weight. The original poster attempts to apply the relationship between forces and areas in hydraulic systems but expresses uncertainty about their calculations and the influence of fluid height.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the application of the force-area relationship in hydraulic systems and question whether the height of the fluid column affects the force calculation. There is also a suggestion to consider torque in the context of the forces acting on the pistons.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of torque, but there is no clear consensus on the correct approach or solution yet.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of the problem, including the potential impact of fluid height and the mechanics of torque in relation to the forces involved. The original poster has expressed confusion about their initial calculations, indicating a need for clarification on these concepts.

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Homework Statement


Piston 1 in Figure P9.24 has a diameter of 0.32 in.; Piston 2 has a diameter of 2.0 in. In the absence of friction, determine the force, , necessary to support the 500 lb weight.

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Homework Equations



F1=(A1/A2)F2
A=pi*r^2

The Attempt at a Solution


I solved for F1 using the above equation and got 12.8. THIS IS WRONG Is this because the column of fluid is higher in the larger piston? So i have to factor in the weight of the higher water as well? Can someone please point me in the correct direction?

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you got the force that the piston at 1 exerts upwards... what force does the hand need to exert to keep the piston from moving.. use torque.
 
torque=rF

would the radius be from the hand to the center of piston 1?
 
Izmad said:
torque=rF

would the radius be from the hand to the center of piston 1?

you want the torque about the point next to the piston 2. so torque due to the F force is F*12.0in clockwise... what is the torque due to the pressure force...
 

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