What is the next step after finding the k-value in half-life calculations?

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The discussion revolves around half-life calculations in the context of determining the age of a rock using radioactive decay. The original poster is seeking clarification on the next steps after calculating the k-value from the half-life of an element.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to understand how to apply the k-value in the equation y(t)=e^{kt} after determining it from the half-life. They question what value should replace y(t) when calculating the age of the rock.
  • Some participants question the availability of initial abundance information necessary for the calculations.
  • Others suggest considering the context of carbon dating and the assumptions about initial abundance based on atmospheric levels.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of how to approach the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the importance of knowing the initial abundance, but there is no explicit consensus on how to proceed without that information.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the challenge of determining initial abundance when not explicitly provided, raising questions about how this impacts the calculations for different isotopes.

mateomy
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Maybe this is a dumb question...

Let's say I want to figure out the age of a rock and I have the half life of an element.
If I have this equation
[tex] y(t)=e^{kt}[/tex]
where first I figure out the k-value using the half life. That part I get.

Now that I have the k-value I 're-use' the formula but instead of put 0.5 for y(t) as before I put what exactly? Do I use the natural abundance of the element? This is assuming I wasn't given any information except 'figure out how old this rock is using element X'.

Thanks.
 
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In your equation, y is a ratio of abundances at different times. So to determine t you need to know the abundance at time 0.
 
How would you know that if you weren't told?
 
mateomy said:
How would you know that if you weren't told?
Depends. Take carbon dating. The theory is that C14 is continually created high in the atmosphere at a steady rate as a result of radiation, so the level in the atmosphere is constant. Creation rate matches decay rate. Once captured at ground level, the decay continues but creation stops. So the initial level is taken to be the current atmospheric level. I don't know whether known variations in atmospheric concentrations of carbon are taken into account.
For other isotopes, I believe there's some way to use the relative concentrations of a mix of isotopes, but I don't know how this works.
 
Hmmmm...

Okay, thanks.
 

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