What is the optimum angle to hit a golf ball the furthest?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around determining the optimum angle to hit a golf ball for maximum distance, considering various factors such as aerodynamics and projectile motion. Participants explore both theoretical calculations and practical implications related to golf.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants inquire about the calculations and methods to determine the optimum angle for hitting a golf ball.
  • There is a suggestion that the optimum angle in a simplified model, ignoring drag and lift, is 45 degrees.
  • Others argue that in practical scenarios, factors like lift and drag significantly affect the optimum angle, suggesting that a lower angle, around 20 degrees, is more effective for drivers.
  • One participant expresses interest in the complexity of the calculations involved and seeks insights from knowledgeable individuals in physics and related fields.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that there is no single answer to the question, as multiple factors influence the optimum angle. There are competing views regarding the theoretical angle of 45 degrees versus the practical angle of around 20 degrees, indicating an unresolved discussion.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations such as the omission of drag, lift, and other real-world factors in simplified models. The dependence on specific conditions and golfer characteristics is also noted.

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Could anyone please tell me how to get this answer through calculations and other means?
 
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Thanks in advance for taking your time :)
 
With or without dimples?
 
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Welcome to PF.

There is no single answer to this question. It is very complicated. Are you a golfer and how vast do you want this thread to become? Is there a specific reason for/purpose behind your question?
 
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With or without dimples?
With dimples
 
russ_watters said:
Welcome to PF.

There is no single answer to this question. It is very complicated. Are you a golfer and how vast do you want this thread to become? Is there a specific reason for/purpose behind your question?
I do occasionally golf, however i do not consider myself to be a golfer. The reason i ask this question is because I would like to know the types of calculations and ways involved to answer the question - furthermore since i am not a physics student, I am interested in the answers people in this forum have (by "people" i mean individuals with vast knowledge pertaining to the subject of physics (but not limited to physics))
 
If you ignore drag/lift, roll after hitting the ground and the Earth's rotation and curvature, the simple projectile motion equation predicts an optimum launch angle of 45 degrees. In the real world, drivers tend to launch at about 20 degrees.

The largest of the factors to add is lift/drag, and the analysis to calculate the optimum launch angle is specific to the golfer and the conditions. And needless to say involves complicated aerodynamic calculations.
 
This is the/a proof for 45 degrees..


In the case of a golf ball there are other factors to take into account such as lift and drag and these mean a lower angle works out better.
 

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