What is the origin of x=e^(rt) in Simple Harmonic Motion?
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Discussion Overview
The discussion revolves around the origin of the expression x = e^(rt) in the context of Simple Harmonic Motion (SHM). Participants explore the mathematical derivation and reasoning behind this form, including its application in solving differential equations related to SHM.
Discussion Character
- Exploratory
- Technical explanation
- Mathematical reasoning
Main Points Raised
- One participant expresses confusion about the origin of x = e^(rt) and seeks clarification.
- Another participant suggests that the solution should be x = e^(i√(k/m)t), emphasizing the importance of the imaginary unit.
- A detailed derivation is provided, starting from Newton's second law and leading to a differential equation d²x/dt² + kx/m = 0, with the proposed solution form x = e^(rt) being justified as a strategy for solving second-order linear equations.
- The derivation shows that substituting x = e^(rt) retains the expression through differentiation, leading to the conclusion that r² + k/m = 0, which implies r = ±i√(k/m).
- Euler's formula is introduced to express the solution in terms of cosine and sine functions, leading to the general solution x(t) = Acos(αt + δ), where δ represents the initial phase.
- One participant reiterates their confusion about why x = e^(rt) is a valid solution and mentions the need for a proper demonstration, indicating a lack of understanding of the constants involved in integrals.
- Another participant clarifies that x = e^(rt) is an educated guess based on the properties of the second derivative in the differential equation, referring to this initial guess as an "ansatz."
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants express varying levels of understanding regarding the origin and validity of the expression x = e^(rt). While some provide detailed explanations and derivations, others remain uncertain about the reasoning behind the proposed solution form. No consensus is reached on the clarity of the explanation or the need for further demonstration.
Contextual Notes
Some participants note the importance of constants in integrals and the role of educated guesses in solving differential equations, but these aspects remain unresolved in the discussion.
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