What is the peak force between two pool balls in a pool shot?

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The discussion revolves around estimating the peak force between two pool balls during a shot, focusing on the momentum transferred to the object ball. Participants are tasked with considering the masses and velocities of the balls, the duration of contact, and comparing the calculated forces to gravitational force.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss estimations of mass and velocity, with one member calculating momentum and force based on these values. There are questions about the accuracy of the momentum calculation and the resulting force, with some participants expressing concern that the calculated forces seem excessively high.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing calculations and questioning the results. Some guidance is offered regarding the comparison of forces, but there is no explicit consensus on the accuracy of the calculations or the assumptions made.

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Participants are working under the constraints of estimating values and using approximations for the duration of contact between the balls. There is an emphasis on comparing calculated forces to gravitational force, which is a key aspect of the problem.

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What is the peak force between two pool balls in a pool shot? Estimate the momentum transferred to the object ball in a hard pool shot. Estimate (or look up) masses and velocities. For how long are two pool balls in contact? The time can be approximated by the length of time it takes a sound wave to cross a pool ball. Put it all together and compare it to the force of gravity or hte normal force from the table on each ball.


Homework Equations


p=mv
F=dp/dt


The Attempt at a Solution


Estimations:
mass of cue ball- .16 kg
velocity of cue ball- .7 m/s
-->p=.229 kg m/s
speed of sound- 340.29 m/s
length of cue ball- (2.25 in)(.0254 m/in)=.05715 m
-->speed of sound across a cue ball=1.68E-4 s
--> F=dp/dt=(.229 kg m/s)/(1.68E-4 s)=1360 N
and
F_g=mg=(.16 kg)(9.81 m/s^2)=1.57 N


The force that I got is WAY too high, but I don't know what I did wrong.
 
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You have made an error calculating the momentum. The equation is p = mv, but it looks like you calculated m/v.

When I calculated the momentum, I got 0.112 kg m/s, not 0.229 kg m/s
 
Well, now when I calculated the force I get 667 N. Which is still pretty high. And much higher than F_g. Can this be right?
 
Of course the force is much larger than mg: compare the forces you feel when (i) you gently put a pool ball at rest on your head (=mg), and (ii) the pool ball hits your head at some typical speed and bounces off.
 

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