What Is the Period of Regular Fading in a Car Between Two Sound Sources?

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The problem involves a car moving at a speed of 30 m/s between two sound sources emitting waves at a frequency of 1.50x10^6 Hz. The discussion centers on understanding the phenomenon of sound fading as the car travels, with participants exploring the concept of standing waves and the relationship between distance and time intervals of fading.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the formation of standing waves and the calculation of wavelength using the wave speed and frequency. There are questions regarding the validity of the frequency provided and its implications for the problem. Some participants suggest considering the Doppler effect and beats as relevant concepts.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the problem with various interpretations being discussed. Some participants provide guidance on calculating the time taken to travel between nodes, while others express uncertainty about the frequency and its implications for the problem's context.

Contextual Notes

One participant notes a potential misinterpretation of the problem, suggesting that the waves may be radio waves rather than sound waves, which could affect the calculations and understanding of the scenario.

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Homework Statement


A car is driven at 30m/s between two sources, each producing sound waves of 1.50x10^6 Hz. The sound heard by driver rises and fades as he travels from one sound source to the other. Find the period of regular fading.


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The Attempt at a Solution



Since the sound rise and fades along the line connecting the two sources, I believe a standing wave has been formed, where the two end points are open ends. I figure that in one second, the car moves 30m and the waves make 1.50x10^6 cycles, so the wavelength (which is the distance covered in one cycle) must equal 2x10^-5 m (or λ=v/f). Since fading takes place at every node, that is λ/2, distance between adjacent nodes = 0.00001 m. how do I translate
that into time interval between successive nodes? The answer given is 3.3 seconds.
 
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Hi, Simplyjack. Are you sure the frequency that you gave is correct? I don't think even batman could hear that high of a frequency.

I suspect this is a problem where you are meant to use the concepts of the "Doppler effect" and "beats". Are those things that you've studied?
 
Actually, your approach to the problem will yield the correct answer. You just need to find the time for the traveler to go from one node to the next. You know the distance (λ/2). So, how much time does it take the car to move this distance?

I still think the frequency given in the problem is strange. Also, the answer of 3.3 s seems odd. For such a high frequency, I would expect the answer to be of the order of microseconds.
 
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Simplyjack said:
Since the sound rise and fades along the line connecting the two sources, I believe a standing wave has been formed, where the two end points are open ends. I figure that in one second, the car moves 30m and the waves make 1.50x10^6 cycles, so the wavelength (which is the distance covered in one cycle) must equal 2x10^-5 m (or λ=v/f).

In the expression λ = v/f, v is not the speed of the car. What speed is it?
 
Hi TSny,

Thanks for your comments. I got this question from a friend but as i did not copy it word for word, I did not remember correctly and misinterpreted the problem. I think it's not sound waves but rather radio waves, hence the high frequency. Therefore I can use v = 3.0x10^8 m/s and f = 1.50x10^6 Hz and obtain λ as 200m.

Since distance between successive nodes = λ/2 = 100m, and car velocity is 30m/s, I can equate 30 to 100/T, giving T to be 3.33 s. But I am not sure if driver will still be able to "hear" the rise and fall of such high frequencies.

Thanks for helping me to solve my own problem.

Simplyjack
 

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