What Is the Probability That Three Men Will Take the Same Driving Test?

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The discussion revolves around calculating probabilities related to a driving exam with multiple tests. The original poster presents a scenario involving two women and three men taking the same driving test, asking for the probability that the three men take the same test, that exactly three people take the same test, and that all five people take different tests.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to calculate the probability for each scenario, expressing confusion about the reasoning behind the calculations. Some participants suggest verifying the logic used in the calculations for the second scenario, particularly regarding the condition of "exactly three" taking the same test.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, providing feedback on the original poster's attempts. There is an acknowledgment of progress in understanding, particularly for scenarios a and c, while highlighting the need for further clarification on scenario b. Guidance has been offered to consider additional factors in the calculations.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the complexity of ensuring that the other two individuals do not take the same test as the three men in scenario b, indicating a need for careful consideration of the problem's constraints.

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Homework Statement



What is the probability the 3 men take the same test?
A driving exam has 5 different written driving tests to give to drivers. Two women and three men take the test. What is the probability of each event?

a) the 3 men take the same test

b) exactly 3 people take the same test

c) all 5 people take a different test

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The Attempt at a Solution



for (a) first guy can take any test. The probability that the next man takes the same test is 1/5, and the probability that the third man takes the same test is 1/5 again? Atleast that's what I think. I am so confused and time is running out for me...

Homework Statement

 
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That's a good start for the first one. So what is the probability the 3 men take the same test? Now what do you think about the other ones?
 
b) Take the probability from a. and multiply it by

(5*4*3)/(3*2*1) = 10
P = 10/25 = 2/5

c) The first person can take any test. The probability that the second takes a different test is 4/5, the probability that the third takes a different test is 3/5, that the fourth takes a different test 2/5, and that the fifth takes still a different test is 1/5??

P = (4/5)*(3/5)*(2/5)*(1/5)

I really don't know if this is even right. i just don't feel clear on this all. Please help me out?
 
Jason Stock said:
b) Take the probability from a. and multiply it by

(5*4*3)/(3*2*1) = 10
P = 10/25 = 2/5

c) The first person can take any test. The probability that the second takes a different test is 4/5, the probability that the third takes a different test is 3/5, that the fourth takes a different test 2/5, and that the fifth takes still a different test is 1/5??

P = (4/5)*(3/5)*(2/5)*(1/5)

I really don't know if this is even right. i just don't feel clear on this all. Please help me out?

You are doing better than you think. c) is right. b) is still a bit off. You didn't explain all of your reasoning in b), but you didn't make sure the other two people you've haven't selected don't take the same test as the three you did. The question says 'exactly three'.
 
Dick said:
You are doing better than you think. c) is right. b) is still a bit off. You didn't explain all of your reasoning in b), but you didn't make sure the other two people you've haven't selected don't take the same test as the three you did. The question says 'exactly three'.
i've no idea what to do next or how to finish this off. sorry for being stupid...
 
Jason Stock said:
i've no idea what to do next or how to finish this off. sorry for being stupid...

Stop saying you are stupid and start thinking. You picked all groups of three people and multiplied by the probability they all take the same test. What's the probability the other two people didn't take the same test? You have to multiply by that too.
 
ok... so a. and c. are right, b I'm half right and just need to do the same thing?
 
Jason Stock said:
ok... so a. and c. are right, b I'm half right and just need to do the same thing?

What's the probability that the two you didn't pick don't take the same test as the three you did. Multiply by that and I think you are right.
 

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