What is the proper formula for ##Y_{max}## for this trajectory?

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The discussion revolves around the proper formula for the maximum height, denoted as ##Y_{max}##, of a projectile in a trajectory context. Participants are examining various equations related to projectile motion, including time of flight and maximum height calculations.

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  • Participants are exploring different formulations for maximum height and questioning the correctness of previously stated equations. There is a focus on distinguishing between maximum height and horizontal range, as well as the implications of initial vertical velocity.

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Some participants have provided corrections and clarifications regarding the equations presented, while others are still questioning the proper formulation for ##Y_{max}##. There is an ongoing exploration of the relationships between the variables involved in projectile motion.

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There are references to specific angles and initial velocities, as well as a mention of a height from which the projectile is launched (a cliff height, ##H##). The discussion reflects uncertainty regarding the correct interpretation of the equations and their applications.

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What is the proper formula for ##Y_{max}## for this trajectory?
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What is the proper formula for ##Y_{max}## for this trajectory?
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Time it takes from A to travel to B; ##T = \large\frac{Vsinθ}{g}##

Max height object can reach, ##h = \large\frac{V^{2} sin⁡2θ}{g}##

Time it takes for for B to travel to C; ##T = \large\sqrt\frac{2y_{max}}{g}##

What is the proper formula for ##Y_{max}## for this trajectory?
 

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Benjamin_harsh said:
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Max height object can reach, ##h = \large\frac{V^{2} sin⁡^2θ}{g}##
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What is the proper formula for ##Y_{max}## for this trajectory?
[Corrected your LaTeX]
You can read the answer from the givens on the drawing and from one other number you have already calculated.

Edit: Note that @kuruman interpreted your error differently (and likely more correctly).
 
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Benjamin_harsh said:
Max height object can reach, ##h = \large\frac{V^{2} sin⁡2θ}{g}##
This is incorrect. It represents the horizontal range, not the maximum height, of a projectile when it returns to the same level from which it was launched.
 
Horizontal range is ##R = Vcosθ.t##
 
Benjamin_harsh said:
Horizontal range is ##R = Vcosθ.t##
Yes, and if you set define t as the time taken to return to the starting level you get ##t=\frac{2V\sin\theta}{g}##
If you then use the trig identity that ##\sin 2\theta = 2\sin \theta \cos \theta## then you get ##R=\frac{V^2\sin 2\theta}{g}##

Did you mean to write ##\sin 2\theta## or ##\sin^2\theta## in your original post?
 
Benjamin_harsh said:
Horizontal range is ##R = Vcosθ.t##
Really? What is the range at ##t=0##? The equation you quoted is the horizontal position at any time ##t## from ##t=0## to the time it lands.
 
Then what is the formula for Max height & ##Y_{max}##?
 
You tell us. Given the initial vertical velocity of a projectile, how high can it get?
 
##y_{max} = \large\frac{V^{2}sin^{2}θ}{2g}\normalsize + H## (Here ##H## is the height of the cliff.)

##h = \large\frac{V^{2}sin^{2}θ}{2g}##
 
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Benjamin_harsh said:
##y_{max} = \large\frac{V^{2}sin^{2}θ}{2g}\normalsize + H## (Here ##H## is the height of the cliff.)

##h = \large\frac{V^{2}sin^{2}θ}{2g}##
That is correct.
 

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