What is the Rate Law Expression for Inversion of Sugar Based on pH Changes?

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The discussion centers around determining the rate law expression for the inversion of sugar based on changes in pH. Participants explore the implications of half-life data at different pH levels and the relationship between hydrogen ion concentration and reaction order. The scope includes theoretical considerations and mathematical reasoning related to reaction kinetics.

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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant asserts that the reaction is second order with respect to [H+] and zero order with respect to sugar, based on half-life calculations.
  • Another participant challenges the use of the half-life equation, suggesting that it applies to reactions with changing half-lives rather than comparing initial rates of two separate mixtures.
  • Some participants emphasize that the pH values represent buffered solutions, indicating that the pH does not change as the reaction proceeds, which complicates the analysis of reaction order.
  • There is a call for clarification on how to determine the reaction order with respect to [H+] without relying on the initial and final concentrations derived from pH.
  • Participants express uncertainty about the correct method to deduce the reaction order, indicating a need for further explanation or alternative approaches.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the correct approach to determine the rate law expression. Multiple competing views are presented regarding the interpretation of half-life data and the significance of buffered solutions.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the assumption that the half-life equation is applicable in this context, the dependence on the definition of buffered solutions, and the unresolved nature of how to accurately determine the reaction order with respect to [H+].

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Homework Statement


The inversion of cane sugar proceeds with a constant half life of 500 minute at pH=5 for any concentration of sugar. When pH is changed to 4, the half life becomes 50 minutes. Deduce the rate law expression for inversion of sugar.


Homework Equations


t_{1/2}*a^{n-1} is constant for reaction of any order


The Attempt at a Solution


Since pH=5
Therefore, [H^{+}]=10^{-5} (Initial Concentration)
Similarly Final [H^{+}]=10^{-4}
Using first equation I have
500*(10^{-5})^{n-1}=50*(10^{-4})^{n-1}
10=10^{n-1}
n=2
So it must be second order wrt [H^{+}]
Since the rate does not depend of sugar so it must be zero order wrt sugar
Therefore the rate law expression should be
Rate=k[Ester][H^{+}]^{2}
But the answer in my book says
Rate=k[Ester][H^{+}]
Whats wrong?
 
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What is wrong is that the equation you have quoted relates to a changing half-life as a reaction proceeds. In this case you need a different approach because you are looking at initial rates of two separate reaction mixtures. The half-life does not change as the reaction proceeds. That in itself might tell you something.

What you can do, having decided that a(H+) is the important factor, is test how the initial half life would change if the reaction were first order, second order, zero order, minus 1 order in that activity.

When you increase the activity by a factor of 10, what happens to the half-life? What is therefore happening to the rate?

Is the rate proportional to the activity? to the square of the activity? invariant? inversely proportional to the activity?
 
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JohnRC said:
What is wrong is that the equation you have quoted relates to a changing half-life as a reaction proceeds. In this case you need a different approach because you are looking at initial rates of two separate reaction mixtures. The half-life does not change as the reaction proceeds. That in itself might tell you something.

What you can do, having decided that a(H+) is the important factor, is test how the initial half life would change if the reaction were first order, second order, zero order, minus 1 order in that activity.

When you increase the activity by a factor of 10, what happens to the half-life? What is therefore happening to the rate?

Is the rate proportional to the activity? to the square of the activity? invariant? inversely proportional to the activity?

I can't understand what you are trying to say. Please make it clear.
 
The pH4 and pH5 solutions do not count as initial and final concentrations. Both solutions are buffered, and in both cases the pH does not change as the reaction proceeds. You need some other way of getting the order with respect to the activity of H+.

There are two different reaction setups, and for each of them the pH represents both the initial and the final concentration. You simply cannot use the equation you have quoted, but there is another very simple way to get the reaction order.
 
JohnRC said:
The pH4 and pH5 solutions do not count as initial and final concentrations. Both solutions are buffered, and in both cases the pH does not change as the reaction proceeds. You need some other way of getting the order with respect to the activity of H+.

There are two different reaction setups, and for each of them the pH represents both the initial and the final concentration. You simply cannot use the equation you have quoted, but there is another very simple way to get the reaction order.

But what is that simple method? I have already spent days trying to figure it out.
 

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