What is the ratio of energy to barrier height for a 0.43 reflection coefficient?

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The discussion revolves around determining the ratio of energy E to barrier height U0 for a particle encountering a step potential barrier, specifically aiming for a reflection coefficient of 0.43. The problem is situated within the context of quantum mechanics and wave functions interacting with potential barriers.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between the reflection coefficient and the parameters k1 and k2, questioning how to derive the ratio E/U0 from the given reflection coefficient equation. There is an attempt to clarify the definitions of k1 and k2 in relation to the energies involved.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some offering insights into the definitions of k1 and k2, while others express confusion about how to manipulate the equations to isolate the desired ratio. There is a recognition of the complexity involved in simplifying the expressions without losing track of the variables.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note the challenge of dealing with terms that are both inside and outside square roots, indicating a potential barrier to reaching a clear solution. The discussion reflects a collaborative effort to clarify assumptions and definitions related to the problem.

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Homework Statement



A particle of energy E approaches a step barrier of height U0. What should be the ratio E/U0 so that the reflection coefficient is 0.43?

Homework Equations



R=(k1-k2)^2/(k1+k2)^2 <--------reflection coefficient

The Attempt at a Solution



I am completely stumped at how to approach this problem. I cannot find how to get a ratio of E to U0 using any equations. Any help on how to approach this problem is much appreciated.
 
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w3390 said:

Homework Statement



A particle of energy E approaches a step barrier of height U0. What should be the ratio E/U0 so that the reflection coefficient is 0.43?

Homework Equations



R=(k1-k2)^2/(k1+k2)^2 <--------reflection coefficient

The Attempt at a Solution



I am completely stumped at how to approach this problem. I cannot find how to get a ratio of E to U0 using any equations. Any help on how to approach this problem is much appreciated.

Well, how did you define [itex]k_1[/itex] and [itex]k_2[/itex] when deriving the above reflection coefficient equation?
 
I had k1=sqrt(2mE/(h-bar)^2) and k2=sqrt(2mK2/(h-bar)^2), where K2 is the final kinetic energy.
 
Okay, so doesn't that mean K2=E-U0 and k2=sqrt(2m(E-U0)/(hbar)^2)?

Substitute k1 and k2 into your expression for R and simplify...
 
I don't know how the K2=E-U0 comes into play. However, if I substitute in k1 and k2 into the R expression, it looks like:

R=(k1^2-2k1k2+k2^2)/(k1^2+2k1k2+k2^2). This ends up being a complete mess and I have some E and U0 terms that stand alone and some E and U0 terms that are stuck inside square roots, so I can't get it to a ratio. I can't tell what I'm doing wrong.
 
w3390 said:
I don't know how the K2=E-U0 comes into play

A particle with energy E passes through a potential barrier of height U0...doesn't that mean its final energy is E-U0?:wink:

R=(k1^2-2k1k2+k2^2)/(k1^2+2k1k2+k2^2). This ends up being a complete mess and I have some E and U0 terms that stand alone and some E and U0 terms that are stuck inside square roots, so I can't get it to a ratio. I can't tell what I'm doing wrong.

Don't expand the squares...just divide everything by k1:

[tex]R=\left(\frac{k_1-k_2}{k_1+k_2}\right)^2=\left(\frac{1-\frac{k_2}{k_1}}{1+\frac{k_2}{k_1}}\right)^2[/tex]

And [itex]\frac{k_2}{k_1}=[/itex]____?
 
Okay thanks. That way really helps!
 

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