What is the rational series question for (n + 1) / (3n - 1)?

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The discussion revolves around the rational sequence defined by the expression (n + 1) / (3n - 1) and its behavior as n approaches infinity. Participants are exploring concepts related to limits, convergence, and the distinction between sequences and series.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mixed

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  • Participants discuss the method of finding limits for rational sequences, questioning whether it is standard to divide by the highest power of n in the denominator. They also raise inquiries about the meaning of the limit value and the nature of convergence.

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The conversation is active, with some participants providing clarifications regarding the nature of sequences versus series. There is an ongoing exploration of related problems, with participants seeking confirmation on their understanding of convergence and the application of the integral test.

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Some participants express confusion regarding the behavior of the sequence as n approaches infinity, particularly in distinguishing between the index n and the limit of the sequence. Additionally, there are references to homework constraints and the need for further clarification on related problems.

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Homework Statement



(n + 1) / (3n - 1)

Homework Equations



A_n = L

The Attempt at a Solution



lim n-> infinity
(n/n + 1/n) / (3/n - 1/n)

= (1 + 0) / (3 - 0)

= 1/3

Thats the solution, however i have questions..

1.) If a series is in rational form like this, is it typical to always divide by the largest n in the denominator?

2.) What is 1/3? Is that the limit of the series? In other words, 1/3 is what it converges to?

3.) I'm confused as to why the series approaches infinity, so why is 1/3 the limit?

any help to explain what is going on, would help greatly. Thankyou.
 
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1) yes
2) 1/3 is the limit of the sequence a_n = (n + 1)/(3n - 1) as n approaches infinity, and yes, we say a_n converges to 1/3
3) a_n is sequence not a series, and it converges to 1/3 as n->infinity
 
To clarify the last part, (3), {an} is not a series (or sum) but a sequence. Further, the sequence does not "approach infinity", it is only the index, n, that "goes to infinity". In fact, {an} decreases steadily from a1= 1 down to 1/3.
 
thankyou.

i have two other problems that i believe both converge if I'm doing them correctly below:

both n_infinity: 1/(n^2 + 4) and 1/(n^2 + 1)

so it seems that for both of these problems that the numerator will be 1/n^2
which is 0? so both converge to 0? just want to make sure they do not diverge.
thanks

also......

Okay, as for a problem like this: 1/(3n +1)

where I'm asked to solve it using the intergral test. Do i first want to reduce it like we've done above?

thanks so far.
 
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