What is the Relationship Between Spring Constant and Mechanical Energy?

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving a block hanging on a spring and the relationship between the spring constant and mechanical energy. The scenario includes two blocks of mass 10 kg each, with the spring stretching due to the weight of the blocks, and subsequent questions about energy conservation and maximum speed after one block is removed.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the setup of the problem using potential and kinetic energy equations. There are attempts to relate the spring constant to the forces involved and questions about the conditions for maximum speed and energy conservation.

Discussion Status

Some participants have made progress in calculating the spring constant and are discussing the conditions under which maximum speed occurs. There is an ongoing exploration of how to set up the energy equations correctly, with no explicit consensus reached on the final approach.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework problem, which may limit the information available and the methods they can use. There are also questions about the assumptions made regarding potential and kinetic energy at different points in the problem.

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A block of mass 10 kg hangs on a spring. When a second block with an identical mass of 10 kg is tied to the first, the spring stretches an additional ho = 1.3 m.

a) What is the value of the spring constant k?

Now the string is burned and the second block falls off.

b) How far above its original position does the remaining block attain its maximum speed?

c) What is the maximum speed attained by the remaining block?




Spring constant: F=kx
Conservation of Mechanical Energy




I was thinking about setting up the problem so you look at the first scenario with the 10kg block as zero potential energy. Then when the second 10kg block is added potential energy is gained...is this in the right direction at all?

Could the change in mechanical energy in the first scenario equal the second?

So...
(1/2)mv(final)^2 + (1/2)kx(final)^2 = (1/2)mv(initial)^2 + (1/2)kx(initial)^2
but that would just get rid of the k's which is what I'm looking for.
 
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I think i figured out part b, but I'm still stuck on part a.

For b would you use the equation
(1/2)kx^2 = (1/2)mv(final)^2 - (1/2)mv(initial)^2
Knowing the spring constant and the distance its stretched all your left with unknown is the final velocity since the initial velocity is 0.

But that would just give me the speed at the end of the distance stretched so that's not exactly right.
 
alright i figured out part a,
the weight of the added block equals the force of the spring
10(9.81) = k (1.3m)
k= 75.46N/m

part b kind of has me scratching my head.

So if the max speed occurs when the potential energy is zero how do i set that up?
 
PEinitial + KEinitial = PEfinal + KEfinal
PEinitial = KEfinal

Right?
 

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