What is the Relationship Between u-Substitution and Limits on an Integral?

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between u-substitution and the limits of integration in calculus. Participants are examining how the limits change when applying u-substitution to an integral.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are questioning the legality of changing the limits from 0,3 to 9,36 during u-substitution. There is an exploration of the reasoning behind this transformation and whether it is formally recognized.

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Some participants are providing insights into the mechanics of u-substitution and its implications for the limits of integration. There is a recognition that the limits must correspond to the new variable, but no consensus on a formal name for this rule has been reached.

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Participants express uncertainty about the terminology related to u-substitution and its connection to the limits of integrals, indicating a need for further clarification on these concepts.

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I understand about everything except why the b and a values on the integral change from 0,3 to 9,36
 
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hi bobsmith76! :smile:

09 dx is an abbreviation for ∫x=0x=9 dx …

now convert x to u ! :wink:
 
I know what it's an abbreviation for but how do you go from 0,3 to 9,36 by what rule is that legal?
 
bobsmith76 said:
I know what it's an abbreviation for but how do you go from 0,3 to 9,36 by what rule is that legal?

uhh? :confused:

u = x3 + 9

so x = 0 -> u = 9,

so x = 3 -> u = 36 :smile:
 
ok, thanks
 
Does this rule have a name so that I can look it up in my book? I don't see why u-substitution should be related to the a and b values on an integral.
 
bobsmith76 said:
Does this rule have a name so that I can look it up in my book? I don't see why u-substitution should be related to the a and b values on an integral.

I don't think it has any particular name. But if you express your final integral as a function of u, then the limits have to change to the limits for u. If you don't like that, then change the u back into x^3+9 at the end, so you've got 6π(x^3+9)^(1/2). Now use the original limits. It's exactly the same thing.
 
(just got up :zzz: …)
bobsmith76 said:
Does this rule have a name so that I can look it up in my book? I don't see why u-substitution should be related to the a and b values on an integral.

yes … and the name is u-substitution! :biggrin:

if you substitute u for x, you must do so wherever x occurs,

including in the the limits!

u-substitution does exactly what it says on the tin! :wink:
 

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