What is the significance of 'junk' in the binomial theorem for derivatives?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of "junk" in the context of the binomial theorem as it relates to derivatives, specifically in the derivation of the derivative of \(x^n\) using the limit definition and the binomial expansion. Participants explore the implications of the "junk" term and its significance in calculus.

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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about the term "junk" and its designation as \(O((\Delta x)^2)\), seeking clarification on why this notation is used.
  • Another participant explains that "junk" refers to the higher-order terms in the binomial expansion, specifically those involving powers of \(\Delta x\) of degree 2 and higher.
  • A further elaboration indicates that the "junk" can be expressed as a sum of terms that approach zero as \(\Delta x\) approaches zero, emphasizing the relationship between the limit and the order of the terms.
  • One participant suggests that the "junk" term approaches zero as \(\Delta x\) goes to zero, implying that it eventually disappears in the context of the derivative calculation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the nature of the "junk" term as related to higher-order terms in the binomial expansion, but there is some uncertainty regarding the implications of this term in the context of limits and derivatives. The discussion remains somewhat unresolved as participants clarify different aspects of the concept without reaching a definitive consensus.

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The discussion touches on the notation and interpretation of big O notation, as well as the behavior of terms in the limit process, but does not resolve the deeper implications of these mathematical concepts.

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I've started listening to the lectures for the MIT OpenCourseWare 18.01 Single Variable Calculus class. I understood all of it up until the teacher found the derivative of xn. Here's what he wrote on the board:

[tex]\frac{d}{dx} x^{n} = \frac{\Delta f}{\Delta x} = \frac{(x+\Delta x)^{n} - x^{n}}{\Delta x}[/tex]

That, I understand. Then we get to the binomial theorem to try to simplify [tex](x+\Delta x)^{n}[/tex]. The professor said that [tex](x + \Delta x)[/tex] is multiplied by itself n times, which I understand. Then he wrote:

[tex](x+\Delta x)^{n} = x^{n} + nx^{n-1}\Delta x + junk[/tex]
[tex]junk = O((\Delta x)^{2})[/tex] ("big O of delta x squared")

What I'm confused about is the last line. Why is that what "junk" equals? I understand that the rest of the terms don't matter as [tex]\Delta x[/tex] approaches 0, but why are they equal to what he says they are equal to "big O of delta x squared," as he said?
 
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[tex](x+\Delta x)^{n} = x^{n} + nx^{n-1}\Delta x + junk[/tex]
[tex]junk = O((\Delta x)^{2})[/tex] ("big O of delta x squared")

What I'm confused about is the last line. Why is that what "junk" equals? I understand that the rest of the terms don't matter as [tex]\Delta x[/tex] approaches 0, but why are they equal to what he says they are equal to "big O of delta x squared," as he said?

Hi techieadmin! :smile:

"= O((∆x)2)" is shorthand for "is of the order of (∆x)2" …

for more details, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_O_notation :smile:
 
Well, it's exactly what your title implies- the binomial theorem.

[tex](x+ y)^n= \sum_{i=0} \left(\begin{array}{c}n \\ i\end{array}\right)x^{n-i}y^i[/tex]
When i= 0, [itex]\left(\begin{array}{c}n \\ 0\end{array}\right)[/itex] is 1 so the i=0 term is [itex]x^n[/itex]. When i= 1, [itex]\left(\begin{array}{c}n \\ 1\end{array}\right)[/itex] is n so the i= 1 term is [itex]nx^{n-1}y[/itex]. So
[tex](x+ y)^n= x^n+ n x^{n-1}y+ \sum_{i= 2}^n\left(\begin{array}{c}n \\ i\end{array}\right)x^{n-i}y^i[/tex]
It is that last sum that is the "junk" referred to.

f(x)= O(g(x)) means that f(x) and g(x) go to the same limit "at about the same rate" as x goes to some value- specifically, that f(x)/g(x) has a no-zero finite limit.

Here, the "junk" involves powers of [itex]\Delta x[/itex] of degree 2 and higher: you could write it as
[tex]\left(\begin{array}{c}n \\ 2\end{array}\right)x^{n-2}(\Delta x)^2+ "other junk"[/tex]
where the "other junk" are the remaining terms: involving powers of [itex]\Delta x[/itex] of degree 3 and higher. Dividing that by [itex](\Delta x)^2[/itex] will give [itex]\left(\begin{array}{c}n \\ i\end{array}\right)x^{n-2}[/itex] plus terms that still involve [itex]\Delta x[/itex] which will go to 0 as [itex]\Delta x[/itex] goes to 0 (which is, of course, the important value for a derivative).
 
So the "junk" eventually approaches some number which is multiplied by [tex]\Delta x^{2}[/tex] and since [tex]\Delta x[/tex] goes to 0, the "junk" eventually disappears?
 

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