What is the significance of the gravitational constant?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the significance of the gravitational constant (G) and its relationship to gravitational acceleration. Participants explore concepts related to gravitational force, acceleration due to gravity, and the historical context of how G was determined.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express confusion about the gravitational constant G, questioning how it relates to the acceleration of objects due to gravity.
  • One participant clarifies that G is not an acceleration but a constant used in the formula for gravitational force, specifically F=G(m1*m2)/r^2.
  • Another participant explains that to find the acceleration of an object due to gravity, one must isolate the mass of the other object in the formula, leading to the expression a=G(m1/r^2).
  • There is a distinction made between "little g" (the acceleration due to gravity at the Earth's surface, approximately 9.8 m/s²) and "big G" (the gravitational constant).
  • A participant mentions the historical measurement of G by Henry Cavendish using a torsion setup, suggesting further research for more details.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the distinction between G and gravitational acceleration, but there remains confusion about their relationship and implications for understanding gravitational interactions.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the definitions and applications of G and gravitational acceleration, indicating a need for further clarification on these concepts.

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This discussion may be useful for students learning about gravitational concepts, those preparing for physics homework, or individuals interested in the historical context of gravitational measurements.

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In my physics class, we learned that everything accelerates towards each other at 6.67 x 10-11. I'm not sure what about that doesn't make sense (We didn't talk about it much, but we're expected to know about it) but something doesn't. How can EVERYTHING accelerate at the gravity? Uhhh, wouldn't a bigger mass go faster? Earth goes 9.8 m/s2, so where does G come into play?
And how the crap did someone figure that out, anyway?
 
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GreatEscapist said:
In my physics class, we learned that everything accelerates towards each other at 6.67 x 10-11.
:confused: That's the gravitational constant G (in m3 kg-1 s-2), not the acceleration of anything.
 
GreatEscapist said:
In my physics class, we learned that everything accelerates towards each other at 6.67 x 10-11. I

This is incorrect. To find the force between 2 objects with respect to each other we use the following formula [tex]\ F=G \frac{m1*m2}{r^2}[/tex]. Where m1 and m2 represent the mass of the objects and r is the distance between them.G is your gravitational constant which is not an acceleration . To find the acceleration on one of the objects at a certain distance from the other you take its mass out of the formula. The acceleration of object 2 at distance r from object 1 is [tex]\ a=G \frac{m1}{r^2}[/tex] directed from 2 to 1
 
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GreatEscapist said:
In my physics class, we learned that everything accelerates towards each other at 6.67 x 10-11. I'm not sure what about that doesn't make sense (We didn't talk about it much, but we're expected to know about it) but something doesn't. How can EVERYTHING accelerate at the gravity? Uhhh, wouldn't a bigger mass go faster? Earth goes 9.8 m/s2, so where does G come into play?
And how the crap did someone figure that out, anyway?
You may also be confusing little g with big G. The 9.8 m/s2 that you referred to is little g, and it is an acceleration. It is the acceleration that all objects fall at surface of the earth. Big G is as the previous posters described. You may find this page helpful: http://csep10.phys.utk.edu/astr161/lect/history/Newtongrav.html
 
Oh.
This would explain why my homework always comes out wrong.
 
G was measured by Henry Cavendish using a torsion setup , google it to get more precise details.
 

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