What is the solution to the garden cart torque problem?

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The problem involves a garden cart loaded with firewood encountering an 8.0 cm high step while being pushed horizontally. The cart's mass is 56 kg, and it has a wheel diameter of 60 cm. Participants are discussing the forces and angles involved in determining the minimum horizontal force required to get the cart over the step.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to calculate the angle of force application and the corresponding force needed to overcome the step. There are questions about the specific requirements of the problem and the interpretation of the calculations presented.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided hints about drawing forces and taking moments about the step. There is a recognition of the importance of clarifying the question being asked, and multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored. The discussion includes varying calculations and results, with some participants noting discrepancies with expected answers.

Contextual Notes

There is a lack of clarity regarding the exact question being asked, which has led to confusion in the calculations. Participants are also questioning the triangle used in the calculations and the assumptions made about the setup.

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Homework Statement


A garden cart loaded with firewood is being pushed horizontally when it encounters a step 8.0 cm high, as shown in the figure. The mass of the cart and its load is 56 kg, and the cart is balanced so that its center of mass is directly over the axle. The wheel diameter is 60 cm.


Homework Equations


F = mg cos (theta)


The Attempt at a Solution


The angle theta upon which the force is going to act when the cart goes up the slope is:

(R -h) / (sqrt((R - h)2 + (h^2))

Multiplied by mg:

mg * (R -h) / (sqrt((R - h)2 + (h^2)) =
56 * 9.8 * (.3-.08)/sqrt((.3-.08)^2 + .08^2) = 515.75686308

Rounded to two significant figures, this is 520.

Mastering physics says the answer is 510. How come?
 
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akan said:
A garden cart loaded with firewood is being pushed horizontally when it encounters a step 8.0 cm high, as shown in the figure. The mass of the cart and its load is 56 cm, and the cart is balanced so that its center of mass is directly over the axle. The wheel diameter is 60 cm.

Hi akan! :smile:

erm … what is the question asking you to find? :redface:
 
tiny-tim said:
Hi akan! :smile:

erm … what is the question asking you to find? :redface:

Oh! That would be an important piece of information, wouldn't it?

Q: What is the minimum horizontal force that will get the cart up the step?
 
may the force be with you …

akan said:
Oh! That would be an important piece of information, wouldn't it?

:approve: ah! the force is strong in this one! :approve:
akan said:
(R -h) / (sqrt((R - h)2 + (h^2))

What triangle did you get that from? :confused:

Hint: draw the forces on the axle, take moments about the step, and choose the correct triangle! (or, at least, one that actually exists :wink:)
Mastering physics says the answer is 510. How come?

I get 510 also.
 
Ok, thanks, I think I got this one. I set the pivot point at the edge of the cliff, and the arm from that to the center...
 

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