What is the solution to this infinite series problem?

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The discussion centers on solving the infinite series problem, specifically finding the positive integer k such that the sum from n=4 to k of 1/(√n + √(n+1)) equals 10. A hint suggests using the technique of multiplying by (√n - √(n+1)) to simplify the expression. Users share experiences with Maxima as a Computer Algebra System (CAS), noting it produces complex sums of radicals and approximates the answer as 9.9999999999996. Rationalizing the denominator is mentioned as a method that yields the correct answer. The conversation highlights the limitations of CAS tools in handling certain mathematical problems effectively.
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can anyone find a solution without using a calculator??

This is the problem:


Find the positive interger k for which \sum \limits_{n=4}^k {1 \over \sqrt{n} + \sqrt{n+1}} = 10
 
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Hint: Multiply numerator and denominator by sqrt(n) - sqrt(n+1)
 
I suspect this will become something call telescoping series
 
Maxima

Has anyone used Maxima as a CAS? I used Maxima to check my answer to this problem and it just gives me a huge sum of radicals. When I used its float command it gave me 9.9999999999996 as the sum for my answer. Are all of the CAS's this limited?
 
Rationalize for the computer

sennyk said:
Has anyone used Maxima as a CAS? I used Maxima to check my answer to this problem and it just gives me a huge sum of radicals. When I used its float command it gave me 9.9999999999996 as the sum for my answer. Are all of the CAS's this limited?

If I rationalize the denominator first, it then gives me the correct answer. If anyone has any experiences with other CAS's, please share.
 
This is a very easy problem because it reduces to:

\sum \limits_{n=4}^k - \sqrt{n} + \sqrt{n+1}} = 10
 

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