What Is the Speed of a Neutral Pion Decaying into Two Photons?

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The problem involves a neutral pion decaying into two photons, with one photon having three times the energy of the other. The context is within particle physics, specifically focusing on energy and momentum conservation in relativistic decay processes.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the conservation of energy and momentum, attempting to derive expressions for the energies of the photons and the pion. There are mentions of using frequency and relationships between energy, momentum, and mass to find the pion's velocity.

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Some participants have provided hints and partial guidance on how to approach the problem, while others express challenges in progressing with their attempts. There is an indication that some have reached a solution, but the discussion remains open for further exploration of related concepts.

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There is a noted absence of specific frequency information for the photons, which some participants identify as a constraint in applying conservation laws directly. Additionally, the mass of the pion is mentioned but noted as potentially unnecessary for the solution.

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Homework Statement



A neutral pion traveling along the x-axis decays into two photons, one being ejected exactly forward and the other exactly backward. The first photon has three times the energy of the second. Prove that the original pion had speed 0.5c.

Homework Equations



for m=0, E=p*c
conservation of Energy E^2=(c*p)^2+(m*c^2)^2
gamma=1/sqrt(1-Beta^2)
Beta = v/c
p=gamma*m*v
E=gamma*m*c^2


The Attempt at a Solution




I know momentum and energy are conserved giving me the following equations. Epion = 3*Ephoton1 + Ephoton2 and Ppion = Photon1 - Pphoton2. I know the mass of a pion at 140MeV/C^2. For a massless particles E = pc and for the pion E = gamma*m*c^2. I want to find expressions for Ephoton1 + Ephoton2 that do not have P or E in it to solve for the velocity. Though I cannot seem to make any progress with this approach. I need a hint.
 
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Homework Statement



A neutral pion traveling along the x-axis decays into two photons, one being ejected exactly forward and the other exactly backward. The first photon has three times the energy of the second. Prove that the original pion had speed 0.5c.

Homework Equations



for m=0, E=p*c
conservation of Energy E^2=(c*p)^2+(m*c^2)^2
gamma=1/sqrt(1-Beta^2)
Beta = v/c
p=gamma*m*v
E=gamma*m*c^2


The Attempt at a Solution




I know momentum and energy are conserved giving me the following equations. Epion = 3*Ephoton1 + Ephoton2 and Ppion = Photon1 - Pphoton2. I know the mass of a pion at 140MeV/C^2. For a massless particles E = pc and for the pion E = gamma*m*c^2. I want to find expressions for Ephoton1 + Ephoton2 that do not have P or E in it to solve for the velocity. Though I cannot seem to make any progress with this approach. I need a hint.

I had troubles on this one too.

First and foremost is that the frequency of either photon is not given, so right away, conservation of energy gives nothing. However, if you solve for the frequency of one of the photons, say photon(a) by using conservation of momentum, you will get:

f(a)=(3(gamma)mvc/2h)

Then, by plugging that number into f(a) for conservation of energy, Doctor Fenstermacher made it very easy to cancel out all variables that we don't need.

See you in class!
 
Use E2 - p2 = m2. The use the relationship between E and m, or p and m, to give you v.

Note that you don't need the pion mass.
 
Thanks for the help!

Solved it
 
Good. Now see if you understand it. Can you prove that if the first photon has x times the energy of the second, the pion's initial velocity is (x-1)/(x+1) of c?
 
Let me take a crack at it. I'll be back
 

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