What is the Speed of a Transverse Wave on a Varying Thickness Wire?

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a wire of varying thickness, specifically a length of 10 m with a uniform density, subjected to a tension. The challenge is to determine the time it takes for a wave pulse to travel down the wire to a wall, considering the wire's changing radius from 1 mm to 3 mm.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss calculating the volume of the wire to find its mass and subsequently the wave velocity. There is a focus on integration to account for the varying radius, with questions about the appropriate limits and integrand for the volume calculation.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring different methods to set up the integration for the volume of the wire. There is a productive exchange regarding the correct expression for the radius in terms of distance along the wire, and some clarification on unit consistency has been provided.

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There is a mention of potential constraints related to homework rules and the context of a specific physics class, which may influence the approach to the problem.

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Homework Statement


A wire that is 10 m long and has a uniform density(u) of 7.75 g/cm^3 is pulled to a tension of F=80 N. The wire, however, does not have a uniform thickness; rather, it varies uniformly from an initial radius of 1mm to a radius of 3mm where it is attached to a wall. If you send a wave pulse down the length of the string, how long does it take to reach the wall?


Homework Equations


v = sqrt(F/u)
u = m/L (m= mass, L= length)


The Attempt at a Solution


If I could find the volume of the wire, then I could determine the mass of the string, and the velocity of the pulse using the equations above. From there, once I had the velocity, since the units were m/s, I would divide by the distance to find the time it would take for the pulse to reach the wall. (Does this logic make sense?)

But how would I determine the volume?
 
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That would be by integration.
 
What would the integration look like? Would the limits be from 1mm (.001m) to 3mm (.003m) and the integrand be pi*(r^2)*10m (volume of a cylinder)?
 
No. One method of how to obtain the integrand would be the classic "divide-and-conquer". We will divide the wire into infinitely many thin slices. We then consider the volume of each thin slice.

The volume of each thin slice would be [tex]\pi r^{2} dx[/tex]. However, we realize also that the radius of each slice varies, and can be expressed as [tex]0.01 + 0.002x[/tex], where x represents the distance of the slice from the starting point (taken to be the free end). So, we have the volume of each slice being [tex]\pi (0.01 + 0.002x)^{2} dx[/tex].

The total volume of the wire would thus simply be a summation of the volume of each slice across the entire length of the wire: [tex]\int^{10}_{0}\pi (0.01 + 0.002x)^{2} dx[/tex]
 
Wouldn't r be equal to .001+.0002x (in terms of millimeters) and (1*10^-6) + (2*10^-7)x (in meters)? Since my limits are in meters, wouldn't my integrand need to be in the same units?
 
Oops, it should be r=0.001+0.0002x in terms of meters. Accidentally left off a factor of 10.
Why do you think that would be in milimeters?
 
I think that you are correct. I had my units mixed up. Thank you for the help on this problem, I truly appreciate it.
 
would this happen to be for a phys 132 class
 

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