What is the Spring Constant for a Compressed Mass on a Vertical Spring?

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The problem involves a mass placed on a compressed spring, which is released and travels vertically. The objective is to calculate the spring constant based on the mass's motion and the time taken to reach the top of its trajectory.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between gravitational potential energy and the potential energy stored in the spring. There are questions about the relevance of the time taken for the mass to ascend and how it factors into the calculations. Some suggest calculating the maximum height to relate it to the spring's potential energy.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring different interpretations of the problem, particularly regarding the role of time in determining the height reached by the mass. Some guidance has been offered on relating energies, but there is no explicit consensus on the approach to take.

Contextual Notes

There is uncertainty about the necessity of the time variable in the calculations and how to effectively use the given data to find the spring constant. The displacement of the spring is also not directly provided, adding to the complexity of the problem.

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Homework Statement



The left side of the figure shows a light (`massless') spring of length 0.330 m in its relaxed position. It is compressed to 71.0 percent of its relaxed length, and a mass M= 0.210 kg is placed on top and released from rest (shown on the right).

The mass then travels vertically and it takes 1.50 s for the mass to reach the top of its trajectory. Calculate the spring constant, in N/m. (Use g=9.81 m/s2). Assume that the time required for the spring to reach its full extension is negligible.


Homework Equations


F=-kx

The Attempt at a Solution


I'm not too sure about how I consider the time it takes for the mass to go back up.
I know that the energy while the mass is on the spring is mg (downwards) and -kx upwards.

Then when the ball goes back up - its KE + mgh is equal to mg-kx?

thanks!
 
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Calculate the maximum height of the object above the compressed spring, then you'll have a value of gravitational potential energy that is equal to the potential energy initially stored in the compressed spring.

Then you simply solve for k.
 
if so then why do i need the t=1.5 sec? it doesn't make any sense...

is this what you suggest:
mgh = 0.21*0.71*0.33*9.81= -k(0.29*0.33)
 
The mass flies free of the spring and reaches an unknown height. use t to determine that height and the relation

mgh = 1/2 K*x^2

where x is the displacement of the spring which we are not given directly, but can be figured fout rom the data given.
 

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