What is the tension in strand 4 of a spiderweb supported by four main strands?

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The problem involves calculating the tension in the fourth strand of a spiderweb supported by four main strands, given the tensions and directions of the other three strands. The context is set in a physics homework scenario, where the original poster expresses uncertainty about the concepts involved.

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  • Participants discuss breaking down the tensions into x and y components to analyze the equilibrium of forces. Some express confusion about the concepts of tension and equilibrium, while others attempt to clarify the calculations needed to find the tension in strand 4.

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The discussion is ongoing, with various participants offering different tension values for strand 4 based on their calculations. There is no explicit consensus on the correct answer, and participants are exploring different interpretations and methods to approach the problem.

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Some participants note the lack of information regarding the weight of the web and the implications of equilibrium in their calculations. The original poster mentions a time constraint due to an upcoming exam, which adds urgency to the discussion.

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Homework Statement



A spider builds its web in a window frame that is lying on the ground. It is supported by four main strands. Calculate the force of tension in strand 4 assuming the web is stable. The tension s in the other three strands are as follows:
strand 1: 21.00 mN [22.00°E of N]
strand 2: 16.00 mN [66.00°E of S]
strand 3: 18.00 mN [44°W of S]

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I honestly have no idea how to do this, because our teacher never taught it to us, and I need it for my physics exam tomorow


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You have 4 strands with the tension and direction of each strand.
Your teacher never taught you about tension, so you think you cannot solve the problem. Or he didn't teach you about spider webs??:)

The tension in each strand can be broken down into x and y directions.

solve for forces in x direction to be zero.
Same for the y-direction.
 
256bits said:
You have 4 strands with the tension and direction of each strand.
Your teacher never taught you about tension, so you think you cannot solve the problem. Or he didn't teach you about spider webs??:)

The tension in each strand can be broken down into x and y directions.

solve for forces in x direction to be zero.
Same for the y-direction.

He didn't mention anything about tension, he even admitted it when someone asked him in front of the class. My friends are saying that they got ‎9.987mN [0.06884° W of S], but I originally got 17.45mN [48.06°W of N], but then redid the question and got 23mN [56°W of N].

If someone could varify what one is right, preferably before 10pm (eastern standard time) because I have an exam tomorow :/

And what does mN stand for?

Thanks
 
I should mention that after finding the resultant for strands #1, #2, #3, the tension of force in strand #4 would have to be in the opposite direction so as to balance the spider web, but that you already knew.

m stands for milli, as in miilimeter, milliNewton, millilitre, milligram

I get 9.94 mN acting 89.98 West of South

My spider web forces (tension in the strands ) looks like this:
 

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My attempt:
Consider the forces acting on the web.
Since the question has not provided the weight of web, it may be negligible.

It is in equilibrium. Net force and torque = 0.
Along x-direction, we have:
S4 sin theta = S1 sin 22 + S2 sin 66 - S3 sin 44 = 9.979615116 mN
Along y-direction, we have
S4 cos theta = S1 cos 22 - (S2 cos 66 + S3 cos 44) = 0.01495825 mN

theta here stands for "(N theta W).

Solving for simple geometry:
S4 = 9.9796 mN (approx.)
theta = 89.9141 (approx.), so direction = N89.9141W.

All angles are in degree measure.
 

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