What is the term for light from the dark part of the moon facing earth

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The discussion revolves around the phenomenon of light visible on the dark side of the moon during its crescent phase, specifically exploring the term for this light and the conditions under which it is observed. Participants touch on various aspects including reflection, visibility, and the effects of Earth's atmosphere.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants inquire about the light seen on the dark side of the crescent moon, suggesting it may be reflected light from the sun.
  • One participant notes that the Earth is near "full" when the moon is crescent, reflecting light back to the moon, which then reflects some of that light to Earth.
  • Another participant mentions the phenomenon of Earthshine, which illuminates the unsunlit surface of the moon, and discusses how Earth's brightness can vary based on atmospheric conditions.
  • There is a correction regarding the cause of the moon's crescent shape, with some arguing that it is not the Earth's shadow but rather the night side of the moon that is not illuminated by the sun.
  • Participants discuss the visibility of the moon during different seasons and the challenges of capturing its appearance in photographs.
  • Some express curiosity about the experience of viewing Earth from the moon and the implications of seeing the planet as a whole.
  • There is a debate about the nature of darkness on the moon during a lunar eclipse, with differing views on whether it is a shadow or simply the lack of direct sunlight.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the cause of the moon's crescent appearance and the nature of the light seen on its dark side. There is no consensus on these points, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the specifics of lunar eclipses and the terminology used.

Contextual Notes

Some claims about the visibility of the moon and the effects of Earth's atmosphere are not fully substantiated, and assumptions about light reflection and shadowing are not universally accepted among participants.

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What is the light that you are seeing when you look at a crescent moon but you can still see the dark side faintly?

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The light you see from the noon at any time is reflected light from the sun. The shadow you see on the moon that causes it to become crescent is the shadow of the earth. You will generally be able to see areas bordering the shadow, but because there isn't much in space to reflect around light, it would be hard to see areas beneath the shadow.

Would you have a specific photo of what you mention?
 
When the moon is a thin crescent, the Earth is near "full" as seen from the moon, reflecting a lot of light toward the moon, which in turn reflects some back to earth, making the "dark" part of the moon visible.
 
Ah, that's interesting. I've never noticed this myself. Alright, when's the next crescent moon.
 
Thats what I figured myself. You just missed the best one I have seen yet last tuesday or thursday. I forgot which day.
 
During the spring in the northern hemisphere, the angle of the ecliptic puts the moon directly above the setting sun, making it more visible for longer in its crescent phase.

I've been trying to capture this phenomena myself: http://www.russsscope.net/images/moon1.jpg
 
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I'm sure pictures don't do it justice... I wonder what it would be like to see the entire planet... all 7 billion humans... the place where all of our history and present happens... in one blue circle :)
 
Earthshine, as Russ already noted, is what illuminates the unsunlit surface of the moon. The Earth is phenomenally bright viewed from the surface of the moon. The brightness [albedo] varies depending on atmospheric conditions on Earth - clouds are more reflective in the visible spectrum than the surface of the earth. For another pic:

http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap020419.html
 
I just noticed this last summer. I'm glad it's not light pollution.
 
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I have heard of people taking spectra of India by observing the moon!
 
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mezarashi said:
The The shadow you see on the moon that causes it to become crescent is the shadow of the earth.

Hmmm. . . I don't think this is quite right. The "shadow" you see on the moon that causes it to be a crescent is not the shadow of the Earth. It is simply the side of the Moon facing away from the Sun. It is the night-time side of the Moon.

The only time a shadow of the Earth causes any darkness on the Moon would be during a lunar eclipse, which happens only a couple of times a year.
 
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You're right, smithpa9 - I missed that when I first went through the thread. Good catch.
 
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smithpa9 said:
The only time a shadow of the Earth causes any darkness on the Moon would be during a lunar eclipse, which happens only a couple of times a year.
And even then, Earth's shadow is so broad doesn't even resemble a shadow at all. The gradient from light to shadow spans the whole moon's face, making it simply look like the moon is somewhat darker altogether with one limb even darker.

It is quite possible to not realize you're seeing a lunar eclipse at all.
 

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