What is the Terminal Voltage of a Battery?

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving the terminal voltage of a battery, given its electromotive force (emf), internal resistance, and the net resistance of the circuit. Participants express confusion regarding the calculation of terminal voltage and the role of current in the process.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to understand how to calculate terminal voltage using the formula V = emf - ir, but is confused about the current since it is not provided. Some participants suggest finding the current through the total circuit, which includes both internal and external resistances, and using Ohm's law to determine the voltage drop across the internal resistance.

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Participants are exploring different aspects of the problem, with some providing guidance on how to approach the calculation of terminal voltage. There is an ongoing clarification regarding the relevance of the total circuit resistance in determining the current and its impact on the terminal voltage.

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The original poster notes a lack of previous examples in the problem set, which contributes to their confusion. There is also a discussion about whether the resistance of the entire circuit needs to be considered when focusing on the terminal voltage.

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There's a problem in my textbook where it gives the emf of a battery, its internal resistance, and the net resistance of the circuit that it is connected to. Then it asks for the terminal voltage.

Actually, this is just a problem set (not exactly a textbook), so it doesn't teach me from previous examples. I'm still fumbling my way around these problems... Could someone please give me a hint on what to do?

So far, from what I've read on the internet, you can calculate the terminal voltage as: V = emf - ir

I have the emf, and the internal resistance...but no current is given. Haha, I'm so confused.
 
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You need to find the current through the total circuit, which is composed of both the external and internal resistances.

Next, you need to find the voltage drop across the internal resistance. You can use Ohm's law.

Finally, you know how much voltage is being "lost" on the internal resistance, so you know what voltage will appear on the battery's terminals.

- Warren
 
chroot said:
You need to find the current through the total circuit, which is composed of both the external and internal resistances.

Next, you need to find the voltage drop across the internal resistance. You can use Ohm's law.

Finally, you know how much voltage is being "lost" on the internal resistance, so you know what voltage will appear on the battery's terminals.

- Warren

First of all, I'd like to thank you for your quick reply. However, I'm not quite sure if I understand you correctly.

Ok, so the battery's emf is 6V, internal resistance is 0.6 Ohms, and the circuit's net resistance is 7.20 Ohms.

When you said:

chroot said:
You need to find the current through the total circuit, which is composed of both the external and internal resistances.

I took that as...the total circuit has a resistance of 7.8 Ohms.
So, I have a current of 6.0/7.8 = 0.769 Amps ??

chroot said:
you need to find the voltage drop across the internal resistance. You can use Ohm's law.

So...I found that as Current X Internal Resistance = 0.462 V

6.0 V - 0.462 V = 5.54 V, which is the answer.

So...I don't need to worry about the resistance through the circuit?
 
Not when you are only concerned about the voltage across the battery terminals, then the rest of the circuit is irrelevant. Remember voltage is the potential between two points, where current is a conserved flow.
 
LHC said:
which is the answer.

Good work!

So...I don't need to worry about the resistance through the circuit?

You DID worry about it -- you included it in the total resistance, so you could find the current.

- Warren
 

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