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The discussion revolves around various forms of art, including painting, photography, and sculpture, with participants sharing personal experiences and favorite artists. Key topics include the influence of historical art movements like Art Nouveau and the Pre-Raphaelites, as well as the impact of photography on traditional painting styles, leading to movements like Impressionism. Participants express admiration for artists such as Rossetti, Picasso, and the Symbolists, while also discussing contemporary artists and personal connections to art through family, such as a niece's work. The conversation touches on the accessibility of art, with mentions of finding art pieces on eBay and the personal significance of art in everyday life. There are reflections on the relationship between art and science, with discussions about how art can serve practical purposes, particularly in medical illustration. Overall, the thread highlights the diverse interpretations of art and its relevance across different contexts and mediums.
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Cyrus said:
Do you have finished picture? I bet it has really nice wood floors inside.


BTW, finally an interesting thread for a change! Nice job!

The entire house had the old solid oak floors, and there was a snow white Italian carved five by six foot marble fireplace mantle and surround---plus a whole bunch more.

Do you see that vine on the left side of the bay window? I pulled that down a couple days after I took that photo. What I didn't know was that there was a bee hive entrance into the joice spaces in the eave of the bay window where the vine was growing. I looked at the front of my shirt and there were about 30-40 bees on it. I raced around the back of the house knocking as many bees as I could off, jumped in the truck, and ended up having about 15-20 stings. I smelled like half pollen/half honey the rest of the day. That's just one of the 'funny' things that happened.

I hired a tree trimmer to cut off a 'limb' which was about 30 inches in diameter and 20 ft up from the ground of a 90 ft tall hard maple because that limb was splitting; and the next wind storm would have sent the limb to crush the wing of the house with the bay window---then, it would have been torn down.

Sometime toward the middle of the third year of working on it, just about every weekend and two to three times a week after 'normal' work, just after cleaning out the attic (the windows had been broken out most of the 25 years it was vacant), I started back working after a three to four month 'stoppage' of working on it (I had to stop for those months because I caught histoplasmosis). I found out then, that, the town had been on the previous owner's back to tear it down for most of the 25 years--they thought that I was 'quitting' on it, during the time I was recuperating. They gave me a 'list' of about 25 things that an 'expert' thought should be done.

I got to about 22 1/2 'things' done all by myself (the '1/2' of the '22 1/2' was, of the 163 broken panes of glass, I had repaired 101 myself --a lot were those arched ones, in the top half of the windows and each side (pane) of the top half was 14 inches by 42 inches--I didn't even count how many total panes in the house, just the broken ones). The other things on the 'list',-- repairing the chimneys, repairing the half broken slates in the patterned slate roof, and the soffit-- had 'professional' estimates of 25 to 50k.

I went into it as a part time thing, and decided that the time frame was against me for what the city wanted and the time ultimatum they gave me after several more discussions. I ended up only loosing about 20k, not counting any of my time or most of misc. expenses of those four years.

The couple that bought in ended up spending about 200k on it; and it's considered a city 'treasure' now, and on the "National Historic Site" list.
 
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  • #32
rewebster said:
Yeah--I've had one man shows, and some of my art is hanging from California to New York and even in Mexico, and a library. I don't do quite as much now, and I've been turning down work on restorations and commissions. I keep busy in my creative/spare time working on a paper dealing with some of my own thoughts on foundational and fundamental aspects of field and particle physics from the level of knowledge and interest that I have as a 'non-academician'.

But, 'Art' will always be in my blood. I got totally distracted from art and everything else for about four years restoring an 1866 Italianate mansion that I bought, too. Things change, maybe I'll get back into it even more later.

That all sounds great and very interesting!
Sounds as though your beautiful house was a work of art in progress too, such a shame about what happened. I imagine the completion of your vision would have been wonderful.
 
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  • #35
Hirst-Shark.jpg


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damien_Hirst

and what's going on with it:

http://artgalleries.suite101.com/blog.cfm/hirsts_shark_on_view_at_the_met


and who else is buying the artist's work:

http://www.nypost.com/seven/05222007/gossip/pagesix/georges_artful_spree_pagesix_.htm

A Charlie Rose interview with the artist:

http://www.charlierose.com/shows/2008/02/13/2/a-conversation-with-artist-damien-hirst

(there's an earlier interview to the right, too)
 
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  • #37
edit, to act in the gap between the two.
 
  • #40
http://www.no4thwall.com/comics/2004-09-26.gif

http://www.no4thwall.com/?m=200409


Different times for comic strips---example of 'today's comic strips'
 
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  • #43
You are doing a great job with this thread rewebster!

I thought I might link some of the artists mentioned with the first painting in the thread and look at other Monas, starting with Duchamp’s pencil on reproduction, ‘L.H.O.O.Q.’ and moving through Rauschenberg’s Pneumonia Lisa’, but found there was already a link to some of these, although not including Nick Walker’s ‘Moona Lisa’, allowing an observation of whether or not the French pronunciation of Duchamp’s title was correct :smile:. Sorry if it is offensive.
http://www.aiwaz.net/panopticon/mona-lisa-as-modern-lisa/gc234p0


(Also, sorry to be such a bore and edit that point about Rauschenberg. I was trying to remember what else I had read about it, and got thoroughly confused. The article I linked to seemed to be talking more about the nice sentiment of bridging a gap between life and art by including more accessible subjects, etc., but also it has been said that it is important that he actually says ‘working between the gap’ because it is not only affirming autonomy in [institutional] art, but also showing he felt that there were testable boundaries, rather than particularly bridging them.)
 
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  • #44
1820ssampler.jpg


I was looking for a certain 'something' on ebay, and this came up in one search (the searches on ebay can be strange now that that changed the way they're handled).

1820ssampler-full.jpg


1820ssampler2.jpg


1820ssampler3.jpg

dated 1825? (this one ended up selling for right at $1500)

Young women (girls aged about 8-12 years old about) to show one of their skills to be picked for marriage in a couple years

http://www.pilgrimhall.org/images/stsampl.JPG
The first American-made sampler --- by Loara Standish.
http://www.pilgrimhall.org/samplers2.htm


http://www.greencastlemuseum.org/Special_Exhibits/samplers.htm
"Primarily made by young, unmarried women, decorated towels were not practice pieces as were samplers, but were display pieces that were made to add beauty to a home."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sampler_(needlework )

http://images.google.com/images?um=1&hl=en&q=sampler&btnG=Search+Images
 
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  • #45
Well, I just started a blog today because I was bored (see signature), and I have some of my drawings on it... I'll keep adding more later cause I have like a million.

I have the full-size version of my avatar in there too :biggrin:
 
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  • #47
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/dd/The_Persistence_of_Memory.jpg/300px-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Persistence_of_Memory

http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/art/dali460.jpg
http://images.google.com/imgres?img...2Salvador+Dali%22+clothed+car&um=1&hl=en&sa=G

FFPOFP33.jpg


http://www.photographymuseum.com/classicphotoposters3.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvador_Dalí

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/81/Dali_women_skull.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippe_Halsman

http://z.about.com/d/cleveland/1/0/e/5/-/-/softcma.jpg
http://cleveland.about.com/od/artmuseumsandgalleries1/ig/Barcelona-/Soft-Construction---Dali.--1F.htm

http://images.google.com/imgres?img...es?q=%22Salvador+Dali%22++car&um=1&hl=en&sa=G

http://images.google.com/images?um=1&hl=en&q="Salvador+Dali"+&btnG=Search+Images
 
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  • #48
I used to airbrush it the past:

One of the few remaining:

ocelot.JPG
 
  • #49
Very cool, Andre...the white highlights in the gold fur give it a 3-D look!
 
  • #50
Thanks Lisa, actually, that's a bit of a trick. I used to scetch to outline on the cardboard first, then paint on a few layers of water based primer on top until the outlines are barely visible anymore. This allows for better cutting out and removal of the masking films but it also allows for scratching in the white lines very easily.

I think I may resume that hobby when I retire next year.
 
  • #51
Andre said:
I used to airbrush it the past:

One of the few remaining:

snatched up by admirers?
 
  • #52
I'm a weak person. If they hit "pleeeease" the right way, I'm lost. Why? There are dozens hours of work in those things.
 
  • #53
Nice Andre, very challenging work you were doing. Technicals of airbrushing plus the anatomy and understanding of the animal. Robert Bateman is living near here and his work has blossomed well over the years. Check out his portraits of the worlds endangered animals etc...

http://www.swoyersart.com/robert_bateman.htm

My artistic career started with trying to draw a telephone at age 3. My brother inspired me as he was able to draw all the cartoon characters without breaking a sweat.

After my graduation from Fine Arts and the Sciences I was hired to illustrate for the medical, chemistry, physics and engineering departments of the U of BC. Then I was absconded by the Regional Health Authority to illustrate the research papers and patient information for 4 cancer clinics, administration and Health Ministry of the province.

At one time I had 120 medical departments coming to me for everything that made their grants look good to clarifying patient procedure. One of my series is a collection of drawings depicting how to make love with a colostomy bag in the way. My ground breaking stuff was the work I did with researchers and a private Stem Cell Tech. company, later on.

I proved to myself that art was a very practical tool in the world of science. I modeled my goals on Frank Netter http://www.netterimages.com/ who pioneered much of modern medical illustration. Before him only a few artists really paid attention to details like those found in medicine. da Vinci was one of them.

More about me. I'll try to get my more artsy stuff up from my collection but, like your's, they sell and have sold or you end up giving them away. Much of the medical work is now owned by the clients but I have some I can share here as well. Thank you!
 
  • #54
baywax said:
Nice Andre, very challenging work you were doing. Technicals of airbrushing plus the anatomy and understanding of the animal. Robert Bateman is living near here and his work has blossomed well over the years. Check out his portraits of the worlds endangered animals etc...

http://www.swoyersart.com/robert_bateman.htm

My artistic career started with trying to draw a telephone at age 3. My brother inspired me as he was able to draw all the cartoon characters without breaking a sweat.

After my graduation from Fine Arts and the Sciences I was hired to illustrate for the medical, chemistry, physics and engineering departments of the U of BC. Then I was absconded by the Regional Health Authority to illustrate the research papers and patient information for 4 cancer clinics, administration and Health Ministry of the province.

At one time I had 120 medical departments coming to me for everything that made their grants look good to clarifying patient procedure. One of my series is a collection of drawings depicting how to make love with a colostomy bag in the way. My ground breaking stuff was the work I did with researchers and a private Stem Cell Tech. company, later on.

I proved to myself that art was a very practical tool in the world of science. I modeled my goals on Frank Netter http://www.netterimages.com/ who pioneered much of modern medical illustration. Before him only a few artists really paid attention to details like those found in medicine. da Vinci was one of them.

More about me. I'll try to get my more artsy stuff up from my collection but, like your's, they sell and have sold or you end up giving them away. Much of the medical work is now owned by the clients but I have some I can share here as well. Thank you!

That's soooo damn cool!

Does doing scientific art all day get in the way of your outside-of-work art?
 
  • #55
Thanks BW, let me introduce three splendid Dutch wildlife artists, I all know personally, the http://home.hetnet.nl/~alad/index2.html:

http://home.hetnet.nl/~alad/rec-animals/4.jpg

And Remie Bakker, who modelled the saber-toothed cat replica:

scimi.JPG


and coauthored the book about that I translated. BTW The prints of the English version are ready now and should be distributed in the next week.
 
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  • #56
lisab said:
That's soooo damn cool!

Does doing scientific art all day get in the way of your outside-of-work art?

Thanks lisab... my style was realism to surrealism to begin with, like the Daliesque stuff, anyway so my medical work only enhanced the realism in my paintings... for instance, I spent about 3 years painting bodies flying through the air after a nuclear blast. They're all in various stages of destruction so you get lots of views into the anatomy there. Silent bodies over Saskatchewan after the nuke holocaust etc... I'm pretty sure these one's are gone/sold after the years. When I joined the Archaeology Society because of my overwhelming need to know about the past I was also recruited to illustrate artifacts as best I could so, that lent itself to my overall use and respect for realism.

Since all of this I'm getting into Jackson Polack and Abstract Expressionism as a reverse reaction to realism... but, you have to remember that paint is real too!
 
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  • #57
Andre said:
Thanks BW, let me introduce three splendid Dutch wildlife artists, I all know personally, the http://home.hetnet.nl/~alad/index2.html:

http://home.hetnet.nl/~alad/rec-animals/4.jpg

And Remie Bakker, who modelled the saber-toothed cat replica:

scimi.JPG


and coauthored the book about that I translated. BTW The prints of the English version are ready now and should be distributed in the next week.


Beats Bateman all to hell! Thanks Andre!
 
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  • #58
those are good--I like the juxtaposition with the toga guy and the indian (?) elephant---


and that started me thinking about Sci-fi art, and artists like Frazetta (he did some Tarzan's)

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I've also thought is was interesting the way 'scientists' often describe 'something' as beautiful as a 'painting' and/or some painting in particular.
 
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  • #59
rewebster said:
those are good--I like the juxtaposition with the toga guy and the indian (?) elephant---

Mammuthus meridionalis, the ancestral (southerly) mammoth that lived about 3.5 Ma- 1 Ma ago, evolving into the Steppe mammoth, Mammuthus trogontherii as well as the several American species, Mammuthus Columbi etc. Although Dick Mol has a point that all were just variations of the same species, Mammuthus meridionalis as the only difference between the forms are the number of enamel plates in the molars.

Anyway, all three artists are specialized in reviving extinct animals in two or three dimensions based on the fossil record and biologic morphology or what's it called.

It's great fun to watch them at work.
 
  • #60
Andre said:
Mammuthus meridionalis, the ancestral (southerly) mammoth that lived about 3.5 Ma- 1 Ma ago, evolving into the Steppe mammoth, Mammuthus trogontherii as well as the several American species, Mammuthus Columbi etc. Although Dick Mol has a point that all were just variations of the same species, Mammuthus meridionalis as the only difference between the forms are the number of enamel plates in the molars.

Anyway, all three artists are specialized in reviving extinct animals in two or three dimensions based on the fossil record and biologic morphology or what's it called.

It's great fun to watch them at work.

Very excellent work. And in the name of science!

Its funny how what people perceive as beret wearing, chain smoking, beatnik artists actually contribute widely to the popularization and visualization of the sciences. Not to mention how the work helps raise the cash to do the research. Its a good blend as far as I can see. I wonder when we'll all be burned at the stake. da Vinci did a good job of avoiding that. It had to do with his connections in the merchant circles and his value to the churches as an illustrator of their stories, I think.

But, da Vinci lamented about the transient nature of life and art when he said

"And the lily grew beautifully beside the river and the waters of the river rose up and washed the lily away." (paraphrased).
 
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