What Is the Time Period of Oscillation for a Uniformly Stretched Spring?

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The discussion revolves around determining the time period of oscillation for a uniformly stretched spring that has mass distributed along its length. The spring is fixed at one end and stretched by a certain length before being released. Participants are exploring the dynamics of the spring's motion and the energy transformations involved.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants have attempted to express the energy of the system and relate it to kinetic and potential energy. Some are questioning how to derive the kinetic energy of the spring and its relationship with the displacement. Others are considering the complexities introduced by the spring's mass and the potential for wave motion within the spring.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their attempts and expressing uncertainty about the next steps. Some guidance has been offered regarding the analysis of forces on segments of the spring, indicating a potential direction for further exploration.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the challenge of analyzing a spring with mass, particularly in relation to wave motion and uniform stretching. There is an emphasis on the need for careful consideration of the spring's properties and behavior during oscillation.

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time period of a "SPRING"

Homework Statement


A spring has mass is m and natural length "L" and spring constant "k" has its one end fixed and the other end stretched by a length "a" and released.What is the time period of its oscillations?(there is no other mass attached to the spring,only the spring has mass m distributed uniformly across its length)

Homework Equations


Kx=ma
Energy of a stretched spring = 1/2kx^2+(kinetic energy)

The Attempt at a Solution


The net energy possessed by the system is constant(E).This energy exists in the form of kinetic and potential energy.
E=1/2(kx^2)+ kinetic energy
 
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quawa99 said:

Homework Statement


A spring has mass is m and natural length "L" and spring constant "k" has its one end fixed and the other end stretched by a length "a" and released.What is the time period of its oscillations?(there is no other mass attached to the spring,only the spring has mass m distributed uniformly across its length)


Homework Equations


Kx=ma
Energy of a stretched spring = 1/2kx^2+(kinetic energy)


The Attempt at a Solution


The net energy possessed by the system is constant(E).This energy exists in the form of kinetic and potential energy.
E=1/2(kx^2)+ kinetic energy
Where is your attempt?
 
adjacent said:
Where is your attempt?

I don't have any idea
I wanted to write the energy equation and defferentiate it with respect to time but I couldn't get the kinetic energy of the spring and relate it with x
 
A spring with mass is not an easy thing to analyze. Look for something on the Web.
 
rude man said:
A spring with mass is not an easy thing to analyze. Look for something on the Web.
True, but that's because in general there can be wave motion within the spring. In this case, it starts uniformly stretched, and it's reasonably obvious (probably not hard to prove) that this will remain the case in subsequent motion.
quawa99, consider an element (relaxed) length ds of the spring at (relaxed) length s from the fixed end. Take the extension of the spring at some instant to be x. Assuming the spring is uniformly stretched at all times, what equations can you write for the forces on ds?
 

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