What is the use of spherical trigonometry and the pre recs to learn it

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the relevance and applications of spherical trigonometry, particularly in relation to navigation, astronomy, and its potential utility in further studies in mathematics and physics. Participants explore prerequisites for learning spherical trigonometry and suggest alternative areas of study.

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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the necessity of learning spherical trigonometry beyond navigation, expressing uncertainty about its value in further math or physics education.
  • Another participant suggests that spherical trigonometry could serve as a useful stepping-stone for understanding more complex concepts and problem-solving.
  • Some participants argue that most math and physics majors may not require spherical trigonometry, proposing instead that differential geometry of curves and surfaces would be more beneficial, as it encompasses spherical trigonometry as a special case.
  • A different viewpoint emphasizes the importance of learning special cases of geometry, such as spherical geometry, before tackling general differential geometry.
  • One participant provides a brief definition of spherical trigonometry, noting its focus on polygons inscribed on a sphere and the differences from plane trigonometry.
  • Several participants recommend various introductory books on geometry and differential geometry, with some expressing a preference for learning proofs to aid in understanding mathematical concepts.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on the necessity and utility of spherical trigonometry in academic paths, with some advocating for its study while others suggest alternative focuses. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to learning geometry in relation to spherical trigonometry.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention a lack of knowledge in mathematical proofs and express concerns about the difficulty of learning differential geometry without foundational skills. There are also references to specific books and resources, but no consensus on a singular recommended path for study.

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What is the use of spherical trigonometry besides in navigation. My math background consist of having n completed a course in calculus 1.

Would I ever need to learn and understand spherical trigonometry for further math or physics? What do I gain learning it besides saying I know spherical trigonometry.

What are good physical books that are ibtroductory or easy to read.

Thanks.
 
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If nothing else, it is a useful stepping-stone skill for other things - helping you handle trickier concepts and general problem solving.

There are lots of introductory physical books that are easy to read, so you can have both.
But the subject is very broad. Please be specific: what do you need from these books?
There is a whole section on PF devoted to textbooks BTW.
 
Don't need anything in particular at the moment really. I am a math major and was wondering if learning spherical trigonometry will help me some where In my education path. Ie in physics or further math courses.
 
TitoSmooth said:
Don't need anything in particular at the moment really. I am a math major and was wondering if learning spherical trigonometry will help me some where In my education path. Ie in physics or further math courses.

It's useful in navigation and astronomy. But most math majors don't need spherical trigonometry at all. Most physics majors don't need it either.

Instead of spherical trig, I recommend you to do differential geometry of curves and surfaces. That contains spherical trigonometry as a special case and it will be useful in a lot of math and physics.
 
What he said.
 
micromass said:
It's useful in navigation and astronomy. But most math majors don't need spherical trigonometry at all. Most physics majors don't need it either.

Instead of spherical trig, I recommend you to do differential geometry of curves and surfaces. That contains spherical trigonometry as a special case and it will be useful in a lot of math and physics.


Thanks to both of you guys. I wrote it in my things to know rhodia notebook.


At the moment I think differential geometry would near impossible to learn. I would need maybe a yr or 2 max to began the study of it.
I have no kniwledge of mathematical proofs.


I think time bettet spent now will be learning euclidean geometry from kisselev planmetry and solid geometry from part 2.


I will gey started with the book,"How to prove it." Yo know proofs and the language of math.
I feel that by learning proofs I will spend less time trying to understand the information contained in a mathbook.


Thanks.
 
I recommend learning spherical geometry, (not sure what spherical trig is). Last I heard the Earth we live on is roughly spherical.

But I like the idea of learning special cases and proceeding to the general ones later, rather than the other way around. So I will confuse the issue for you by giving the opposite of micromass's advice.

I.e. for me it seems useful to learn the special cases of constant curvature geometry first, before general differential geometry, namely euclidean, spherical, and hyperbolic geometry.

Some really good books starting in this elementary way, and including spherical geometry, are Geometrya nd Groups, by Nikulin and Shafarevich, and some books by David Henderson, on geometrya nd differential geometry:

heres a free one:

http://projecteuclid.org/euclid.bia/1399917370and another one I like: (I have the second edition)

http://www.biblio.com/experiencing-geometry-by-w-henderson-david/work/1588275
 
Spherical trigonometry is the study of three sided figures and other polygons inscribed on, naturally, a sphere:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spherical_trigonometry

The rules of plane trigonometry are a little different than the rules in spherical trig.
 

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