What is the value of the dampening constant?

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The discussion revolves around determining the value of the damping coefficient for a car's shock absorber, which is critically damped when the car is empty. The problem involves analyzing the behavior of the absorber when compressed and released, specifically focusing on its compression after a certain time period.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between the damping coefficient and the displacement of the absorber over time. There are attempts to derive the damping coefficient from the given equations, with some questioning the correctness of their approaches and the form of the equations used.

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Several participants are actively engaging with the problem, correcting their derivatives and discussing the implications of initial conditions on the constants involved. There is a recognition of the need to arrive at an implicit equation, and some guidance has been provided regarding the relationship between the parameters.

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Participants note that the problem requires numerical solutions and that the damping coefficient is a parameter that does not depend on initial conditions. There is an emphasis on ensuring the correct interpretation of the equations involved.

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Homework Statement



The shock absorber of a car has elastic constant k. When the car is empty, the design is such that the absorber is critically damped. At time t=0 the absorber is compressed by an amount A from its equilibrium position and released.
a) If after 1 second the absorber compression is reduced to A/2, what is the value of the damping coefficient? (Note you will have to solve numerically an implicit equation).


Homework Equations



x(t) = (A+Bt)e-βt where β = ω0


The Attempt at a Solution



A(t) = Ae-βt
1/2A = Ae-βt where t = 1s
ln(1/2) = -β

I know this can't be right because I'm suppose to arrive at an implicit equation. I can't seem to figure out where I'm going wrong at. Any help would be appreciated.
 
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Homework Statement



The shock absorber of a car has elastic constant k. When the car is empty, the design is such that the absorber is critically damped. At time t=0 the absorber is compressed by an amount A from its equilibrium position and released.
a) If after 1 second the absorber compression is reduced to A/2, what is the value of the damping coefficient? (Note you will have to solve numerically an implicit equation).

Homework Equations



x(t) = (A+Bt)e-βt .

The Attempt at a Solution



A(t) = Ae-βt ?
1/2A = Ae-βt where t = 1s
ln(1/2) = -β

I know this can't be right because I'm suppose to arrive at an implicit equation. I can't seem to figure out where I'm going wrong at. Any help would be appreciated.

The general equation for the displacement is

x(t) = (A+Bt)e-βt .

At t=0, x=A. What is the value of B if the velocity is 0 at t=0 (that is, the derivative of x(t) has to be zero at t=0)? ehild
 
Thanks for you reply!

x' = (-Aβ - Btβ + β)e-βt
The velocity is 0 at t=0 so,

0 = (-Aβ + β)(1)
β=0 and A = 1

Would I then go on to use t = 1 sec at A0 = A0/2
where A0 = A+βt, the initial amplitude, or is A0 equal to the value I just solved for, A = 1?
 
β is the damping coefficient. It is a parameter of the problem. It does not depend on the initial condition.

You have to fit the constant B to the initial condition V=0. There is a mistake in your derivation. Check the derivative of x(t) = (A+Bt)e-βt.

ehild
 
After correcting my derivative I got,
x' = (-Aβ - Btβ + B)e-βt
Then using my initial conditions v = 0 at t = 0,

0 = (-Aβ + B)(1)
→ B = Aβ

so, x(t) = (A+Bt)e-βt where B = Aβ
and then I can use A = A/2 when t = 1s correct?
 
Yes, it will be correct.

ehild
 

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