What is the weight of an astronaut inside a satellite in circular orbit?

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The discussion revolves around determining the weight of an astronaut inside a satellite that is in circular orbit at a significant height above the Earth's surface. The problem involves gravitational forces and the concept of weight in a non-inertial reference frame.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants explore the calculation of gravitational force using the formula F = Gm_1*m_2/r² and discuss the implications of free-fall on weight. There are attempts to clarify the difference between actual weight and apparent weight in a non-inertial frame.

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Participants are actively questioning the assumptions behind the concept of weight in orbit. Some have provided calculations for gravitational force, while others are debating the meaning of weight in the context of free-fall and whether the astronaut would experience weightlessness.

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There is some confusion regarding the wording of the problem and whether it is asking for the astronaut's actual weight or apparent weight. The discussion reflects uncertainty about the definitions and implications of weight in a satellite's orbit.

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Homework Statement



A satellite of mass M = 683 kg is in circular orbit at height ho = 6.15x106 m above the surface of the Earth. Find:

w, the weight of an astronaut of mass m = 75.5 kg inside the satellite.

Homework Equations



I believe it's something like:

F = Gm_1*m_2/r²

The Attempt at a Solution



For the first part of the problem, I've found that the acceleration due to gravity is around 2.55 m/s².

I used the form, but it's not right.

F = 6.67 * 10^(-11) * 5.98 * 10^(24) * 75.5 / (6.15 * 10^(6) + 6.37 * 10^6)² ≈ 192 N
 
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If the satellite is in free-fall won't the astronaut weigh nothing?
 
NasuSama said:

Homework Statement



A satellite of mass M = 683 kg is in circular orbit at height ho = 6.15x106 m above the surface of the Earth. Find:

w, the weight of an astronaut of mass m = 75.5 kg inside the satellite.

Homework Equations



I believe it's something like:

F = Gm_1*m_2/r²

The Attempt at a Solution



For the first part of the problem, I've found that the acceleration due to gravity is around 2.55 m/s².

I used the form, but it's not right.

F = 6.67 * 10^(-11) * 5.98 * 10^(24) * 75.5 / (6.15 * 10^(6) + 6.37 * 10^6)² ≈ 192 N
You found the acceleration due to gravity. What is mass × acceleration due to gravity ?
 
SammyS said:
You found the acceleration due to gravity. What is mass × acceleration due to gravity ?


Then, it's just F = ma, and it becomes...

F = 75.5 kg * 2.55 m/s²
= 192.525

However, the answer does not seem to be right. I don't get why this happens.
 
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NasuSama said:
Then, it's just F = ma, and it becomes...

F = 75.5 kg * 2.55 m/s²
= 192.525

However, the answer is not right. I don't get why this happens.

Do they mean apparent weight?
 
SammyS said:
Do they mean apparent weight?

Yes, I believe that is what the question is trying to ask! My instructor is not good in wording the question, so I got that part wrong.
 
Actually, I need to find the weight of the astronaut IN the orbitting satellite!
 
Wouldn't the astronaut weigh 0 N because it's in free fall as someone just said?
 
NasuSama said:
Wouldn't the astronaut weigh 0 N because it's in free fall as someone just said?
It depends what you mean by "weigh". If you stood the astronaut on a set of scales then yes, it would be 0. But if you mean the force exerted by gravity then your original answer is correct. In my view, the 0 answer comes about by using a non-inertial reference frame, which makes it as misleading as discussing centrifugal force.
 
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haruspex said:
It depends what you mean by "weigh". If you stood the astronaut on a set of scales then yes, it would be 0. But if you mean the force exerted by gravity then your original answer is correct. In my view, the 0 answer comes about by using a non-inertial reference frame, which makes it as misleading as discussing centrifugal force.

My original answer is correct if the question doesn't ask for apparent weight.

BUT I am not sure if the answer is 0 or not. The astronaut is in the orbiting satellite.
 
  • #11
Haha. Very funny. Then, the answer is 0.
 

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