What is the work done by air resistance on a falling pilot?

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The problem involves an airplane pilot who fell 370 m and landed in a snowbank, creating a crater. The discussion focuses on estimating the work done by air resistance during the fall, given the pilot's mass and terminal velocity.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants explore the relationship between work done by air resistance and kinetic energy, questioning whether the work should be considered negative due to opposing forces. There are discussions about using the work-energy theorem and the contributions of both conservative and non-conservative forces.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering various interpretations of the work-energy relationships involved. Some have suggested specific formulas and approaches, while others are clarifying the definitions of work done by different forces. There is no explicit consensus yet on the final approach to calculate the work done by air resistance.

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There are indications that the problem may involve complexities related to the definitions of kinetic and potential energy, as well as the effects of terminal velocity. The original poster has noted that the problem is from a chapter prior to potential energy, which may influence the understanding of the concepts involved.

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Homework Statement


An airplane pilot fell 370 m after jumping without his parachute opening. He landed in a snowbank, creating a crater 1.1 m deep, but survived with only minor injuries. Assuming the pilot's mass was 80 kg and his terminal velocity was 50 m/s, estimate: (a) the work done by the snow in bringing him to rest; (b) the average force exerted on him by the snow to stop him; and (c) the work done on him by air resistance as he fell.

I need help on part c.

Homework Equations


W = \frac{1}{2}mv_2^2 - \frac{1}{2}mv_1^2


The Attempt at a Solution



taking v2 = 50 m/s and v1 = 0, the work would be 100000 J. But shouldn't the work done be negative, because the force of air resistance is upward and the displacement is downward?
 
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You can attempt part a with the work - kinetic energy theorem, or could you do it by yourself.
 
Yes, the work done by the friction is (always) negative, but the final kinetic energy is zero. You also need to include the work done by the weight of the falling man.
 
endeavor said:

Homework Statement


An airplane pilot fell 370 m after jumping without his parachute opening. He landed in a snowbank, creating a crater 1.1 m deep, but survived with only minor injuries. Assuming the pilot's mass was 80 kg and his terminal velocity was 50 m/s, estimate: (a) the work done by the snow in bringing him to rest; (b) the average force exerted on him by the snow to stop him; and (c) the work done on him by air resistance as he fell.

I need help on part c.

Homework Equations


W = \frac{1}{2}mv_2^2 - \frac{1}{2}mv_1^2


The Attempt at a Solution



taking v2 = 50 m/s and v1 = 0, the work would be 100000 J. But shouldn't the work done be negative, because the force of air resistance is upward and the displacement is downward?
In part c, your formula calculates the the total work done during the fall by both gravity (a conservative force) and air resistance (a non-conservative force). You are looking for the work done by the non-conservative air resistance force alone. Refamiliarize yourself with the work energy equations, which can get a bit tricky: Total work is the change in KE; Work by conservative forces is the negative of the change in PE; work done by non conservative forces is the change in KE plus the change in PE.
 
For part (c) you would say that the work done by drag on the pilot is equal to the change in his mechanical energy. The mechanical energy of the pilot is his kinetic and potential energy combined. When the pilot reaches the ground his potential energy is zero and his kinetic energy is calculated with the 50 m/s terminal speed.
 
Someone told me that the work done by the air resistance would be the kinetic energy of the man if he did not reach a terminal velocity minus the kinetic energy of the man when he's at terminal velocity. So that would be:
W_a = \frac{1}{2}m(2gh) - \frac{1}{2}mv_t^2 with h = 370m.

does this work?

(Also, this problem is from the chapter before potential energy)
 
He's right and the first term actually is the potential energy at the start of the fall. U=mhg=1/2mVf^2 + Wd, which is what Andrevdh suggested above, where Vf=term. vel.
 
For part A, you have it some-what correct. The way I see it (and it is).

Ws + Ww = (DELTA) KE = 1/2mv`^2 - 1/2mv^2

Where v prime = 0 m/s, v = 50 m/s; since v` = 0. Ws = Work snow, Ww = Work weight.

Ws + Ww = - 1/2mv^2;
Ws = -1/2mv^2 - Ww

Where Ww = mgd;

Ws = -1/2mv^2 - mgd;
Ws = -(0.5)(80)(50^2) - (80)(9.80)(1.1)
Ws = -1 x 10^5 J.

However, that is the work done by the snow bringing him to a rest. Find it for the air resistance -- that too should be negative.
 

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