What is the Y-component of T1 and T2?

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The problem involves analyzing the forces acting on a speaker suspended by two wires, focusing on the tensions in the wires and their components. The original poster provides specific tension values and angles but is struggling to determine the y-components of these tensions to find the mass of the speaker.

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  • Participants discuss the need to calculate both the x and y components of the tensions in the wires. There is confusion regarding the relationship between the tensions and their components, particularly whether T1 has an x-component.

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Some participants have provided guidance on drawing free body diagrams and separating forces into components. There is an ongoing exploration of how to correctly apply trigonometric functions to resolve the tensions, with no explicit consensus reached on the correct approach.

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Participants note that the original poster may have misunderstood the requirement to use both x and y components in their calculations. There is also mention of potential confusion regarding the application of sine and cosine functions in the context of the problem.

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Homework Statement


A speakerh angs from the ceiling by a pair of wires, as showin the diagram below. the tension in wire 1 is 35N. What is the mass of the speaker?
Given from the problem and picture.


Wire1=25 degrees
Wire2=55 degrees
Tension in wire1= 35N
Tension in wire2=18.02N

Homework Equations


F=ma
x=T1sin(x)-T2sin(x)


The Attempt at a Solution


This is what I got but didn't get full points becasue I am missing the Y component?

x=35sin(25)-T2sin(55)
T2=35sin(25)/sin55
T2=18.05

Then we used this equation
T1y+T2y-mg
0=T1y+t2y-m(9.8)
Rearange and plug in numbers:
35+18.05/9.8

m=5.41kg

She told me I am right all the way up to the last part (35+18.05/9.8) and was told I'm need the y-components..but I solved for it?

Thank you!
 
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You didn't use the y components.

You have m= (T1y+T2y)/g = (35+18.05)/9.8

i.e. T1y=35N

but are you not told that T1=35N ?
if T1y=35N as well then T1x=0N - does that make sense?
 
So i need to find my x-components of T2x and then have both sides equal to each other?
But if T1x=0n then that is not relative to the equation?
Sorry for the questions, I"m still a bit confused.
 
You need both x and y components.

Draw a free body diagram for the speaker.
Divide the forces (tensions) into components parallel and perpendicular to gravity (easiest approach).
The horizontal forces sum to zero.
The vertical forces sum to zero.

You should end up with two equations and two unknowns.

Note:
if T1x=0 then there is no x component: what direction must T1 be acting in?
Does that fit the description?
 
so I would have to do instead of sin, I have to use cos?

35cos(25)/cos(55)= 55.30
 
You should use your understanding of trigonometry and vectors to solve the problem.
In long answers, you should show your understanding by what you write.

What you wrote in post #5 reads like you have just randomly guessed that you need to change all the sines to cosines as if you have not understood anything that has been suggested before.

If you won't take suggestions, I cannot help you.
If you don't answer questions, I cannot help you.
 

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