What is the y-limit of the inverse tangent function?

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The discussion revolves around the y-limit of the inverse tangent function (arctan), exploring whether it increases indefinitely or approaches a specific value. Participants engage with concepts related to the tangent function, its graph, and the implications for the arctangent function.

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  • Some participants question whether the inverse tangent function has a y-limit, suggesting it may approach a value around y=2 or infinity.
  • Others emphasize the need to graph the tangent function and consider its behavior near the vertical asymptotes at x=π/2 and x=-π/2.
  • A participant points out that the tangent function is not defined at π/2 and -π/2, which is crucial for understanding the arctangent's behavior.
  • One participant expresses confusion regarding the output of their calculator for tan(π/2), indicating a misunderstanding of the function's limits.
  • Another participant introduces the concept of infinitesimals, suggesting that as x approaches π/2 from the left, tan(x) approaches infinity.
  • There is a mention of the limit of arctan(x) as x approaches positive infinity, which is π/2, but this is presented without consensus on the broader question of y-limits.
  • A suggestion is made to define the y-limit mathematically and evaluate it using limit laws, highlighting the importance of consistent definitions in mathematical discussions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the behavior of the inverse tangent function and its limits. Some agree on the concept of limits approaching π/2, while others remain uncertain about the overall behavior and implications of the tangent function.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the definitions of limits and the behavior of the tangent function near its asymptotes. The discussion also reflects varying levels of understanding of mathematical concepts such as infinitesimals and limit evaluation.

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Allo,
When I was experimenting with graphing functions, I noticed the inverse tangent, or arctanget, curves away from y=2, or may be less. What is the y limit for the inverse tangent function? Does it for ever increase, or terminate at a co-ordinate?
 
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LtIvan said:
What is the y limit for the inverse tangent function? Does it for ever increase, or terminate at a co-ordinate?
First graph the function ##\tan## on the real line. Is it defined everywhere? Then recall that ##\arctan## is defined as the inverse of the restriction of ##\tan## to the interval ##(-\tfrac{\pi}{2},\tfrac{\pi}{2})##. (Why is it necessary to first restrict ##\tan##?) Finally try to answer your own question.
 
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Krylov said:
First graph the function ##\tan## on the real line. Is it defined everywhere? Then recall that ##\arctan## is defined as the inverse of the restriction of ##\tan## to the interval ##[-\tfrac{\pi}{2},\tfrac{\pi}{2}]##. (Why is it necessary to first restrict ##\tan##?) Finally try to answer your own question.

Little correction: you should exclude pi/2 and -pi/2 from the interval as tan is not defined for those values.
 
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I approximately understand. So by your logic, when you graph y=tan(x), when it goes up and approaches endlessly, it stops round about π/2 and goes back down to increase and repeat this process? My original question was when does it stop on the y axis? It is infinity? However, when I apply this in my calculator.
tan(π/2)≈0.027 (2sf)
This does not make sense; when I graph this using a software. The line does not define this? when I observe the x=π/2 is does not intersect tan at 0.027? I am missing something?

Thanks in advance,
 
LtIvan said:
I approximately understand. So by your logic, when you graph y=tan(x), when it goes up and approaches endlessly, it stops round about π/2 and goes back down to increase and repeat this process? My original question was when does it stop on the y axis? It is infinity? However, when I apply this in my calculator.
tan(π/2)≈0.027 (2sf)
This does not make sense; when I graph this using a software. The line does not define this? when I observe the x=π/2 is does not intersect tan at 0.027? I am missing something?

Thanks in advance,

You should put your calculator ib radian mode, not degree mode, if you do not have done this yet. tan(pi/2) must give an error, otherwise you or your calculator are doing something wrong.
 
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Okay thanks, that worked. Thinking immaterially, correct me if I am invalid, when π/2 subtract an infinitesimal, tan function would equal what one would interpret as infinity?
Let i="infinitesimal"
tan(π/2-i)=∞
?

However, thanks for your help, I now understand things better.
 
LtIvan said:
Okay thanks, that worked. Thinking immaterially, correct me if I am invalid, when π/2 subtract an infinitesimal, tan function would equal what one would interpret as infinity?
Let i="infinitesimal"
tan(π/2-i)=∞
?

However, thanks for your help, I now understand things better.

I don't like to talk about infinitesimals, however:

lim x-> + infinity arctan(x) = pi/2
 
Hey LtIvan,

You should define the y-limit mathematically and evaluate it using limit laws.

If something increases forever then the derivative is greater than zero.

Evaluating functions are easy if you define them consistently, correctly, and concisely.
 

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