What is Work & Heat? Homework Explained

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the definitions and interpretations of work and heat in physics, particularly in the context of homework. Participants explore various definitions from textbooks and personal experiences, highlighting differences in understanding and teaching methods across different educational systems.

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  • Homework-related
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that work is defined as the change in energy, while others argue it is a form of energy itself.
  • A participant mentions that work can be viewed as energy transferred to or from an object by means of a force acting on it.
  • There is a reference to the definition of heat as the transfer of energy from a hot object to a cold object due to a temperature difference.
  • Some participants recall learning that work is the ability to transfer energy, while others emphasize the equation W = Fd (work equals force times distance).
  • One participant points out that definitions of work vary with different teachers and educational systems, leading to confusion.
  • A later reply discusses the thermodynamic perspective of work, mentioning the equation W = PΔV and the relationship between pressure, force, and volume change.
  • There is a mention of heat conduction, with a participant recalling the formula for the rate of heat flow through a rod based on temperature difference and thermal conductivity.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing definitions and interpretations of work and heat, indicating that multiple competing views remain. There is no consensus on a single definition, and the discussion reflects a variety of educational experiences and understandings.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the variability in definitions based on different educational contexts, such as differences between American and European systems. Some definitions may depend on specific contexts, such as thermodynamics versus classical mechanics.

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After looking through several websites, everyone seems to have their own interpertation of this. My physics textbook says that Work is the change in energy, some people online say that Work is a form of energy and Heat can be changed into work and vice versa. My chemistry book says that Heat is the transfer of energy from a hot object to cold object as a result of the temp. difference between them. It also ssays Work is done as a result of motion against an opposing force. Some others online say that Energy is transferred to the motion of atoms and molecules. Others say that Work is energy transferred to motion of objects. HELP

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I would like to sort of settle on two definitions. I found this one in another physics place. Work is the energy transferd to or from an object by means of a force acting on the object. Is this correct?
 
DiamondV said:
I would like to sort of settle on two definitions. I found this one in another physics place. Work is the energy transferd to or from an object by means of a force acting on the object. Is this correct?
When you had freshman physics, what was the definition of work?
 
Chestermiller said:
When you had freshman physics, what was the definition of work?

Every year with different teachers etc. everyone changes their definitions. I think I learned this first, Work is the ability to transfer energy or something like that.
 
DiamondV said:
Every year with different teachers etc. everyone changes their definitions. I checked again, this is the one I probably learned first Work is the energy transferred to or from an object by means of a force acting on it.
And this is the definition of work they taught you in freshman physics?
 
Chestermiller said:
And this is the definition of work they taught you in freshman physics?
Don't exactly know what freshman physics is. I am assuming that's American education system. I am in Europe.
 
That was probably the earliest definition I could recall.
 
DiamondV said:
Don't exactly know what freshman physics is. I am assuming that's American education system. I am in Europe.
So you never heard of work equals force times distance?
 
Chestermiller said:
So you never heard of work equals force times distance?
Yes I have. W=Fd. They usually tell us both equation and worded definitions
 
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DiamondV said:
Yes I have. W=Fd. They usually tell us both equation and worded definitions
OK. So we are on the same page. The work is a macroscopic quantity. In thermodynamics, it is also force times distance. In the case of thermodynamics, we often get the work as W = PΔV, where p is the pressure (force per unit area) and ΔV is the change in volume. Note that pressure is force divided by area, while change in volume is displacement time area. So, it's really the same thing.

Now for heat. Do you remember from freshman physics when you had one end of a rod at a high temperature and the other end of the rod at a low temperature? We said that the rate of heat flow was equal to the cross sectional area times the thermal conductivity k times the temperature difference divided by the length of the rod. We called this the rate of heat conduction. This is the same kind of thing that happens thermodynamics when we talk about heat flow.

Chet
 

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